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    I've been rewatching some of Salvador Sanchez's title defenses and I started with his first fight with Danny Lopez, where he won his title, and just as the many times when Ive watched that specific fight before, I am awed by the performance of Sanchez and the very legitimate beating Lopez was given that night. He never had a chance to get anything going really. Maybe he underestimated Sanchez, or maybe he'd gone over the hill, but either way, he was dominated thoroughly.
    When I was watching the fight a question came to mind, that being what other championship fights played out similarly to Lopez vs Sanchez 1? Midway through the fight Angelo Dundee, commentating with Tim Ryan, mentions "..when this fight was announced, many boxing people said 'Salvador who?'..." That's the kind of thing Im talking about. Also, I wonder if fights such as the one Im writing about, which were likely rare occurrences at the time they took place, will become increasingly rare due to the internet, where boxing fans can look up a fighter they're unaware of and likely watch some of this fighters previous fights, an example being Fury vs Schwarz, and the upcoming Fury fight with the Swede. In 1981 though, most boxing info not mentioned during a fight itself, not seen during the sports segment of the nightly news, or not read in the sports page was harder to come by, and i imagine you'd have to purchase The Ring, Boxing Illustrated, etc, etc, to learn anything deeper than what you'd possibly get from the three other media types I mentioned above.

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    Corey Sanders the golfer knocking out Wladimir Klitschko

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    • #3
      Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
      Corey Sanders the golfer knocking out Wladimir Klitschko
      Good one, by sneezy!

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      • #4
        Of course, Ruiz/Joshua perfectly fits this bill.

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        • #5
          Not completely unknown but Buster Douglas was certainly unheralded.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mario040481 View Post
            I've been rewatching some of Salvador Sanchez's title defenses and I started with his first fight with Danny Lopez, where he won his title, and just as the many times when Ive watched that specific fight before, I am awed by the performance of Sanchez and the very legitimate beating Lopez was given that night. He never had a chance to get anything going really. Maybe he underestimated Sanchez, or maybe he'd gone over the hill, but either way, he was dominated thoroughly.
            When I was watching the fight a question came to mind, that being what other championship fights played out similarly to Lopez vs Sanchez 1? Midway through the fight Angelo Dundee, commentating with Tim Ryan, mentions "..when this fight was announced, many boxing people said 'Salvador who?'..." That's the kind of thing Im talking about. Also, I wonder if fights such as the one Im writing about, which were likely rare occurrences at the time they took place, will become increasingly rare due to the internet, where boxing fans can look up a fighter they're unaware of and likely watch some of this fighters previous fights, an example being Fury vs Schwarz, and the upcoming Fury fight with the Swede. In 1981 though, most boxing info not mentioned during a fight itself, not seen during the sports segment of the nightly news, or not read in the sports page was harder to come by, and i imagine you'd have to purchase The Ring, Boxing Illustrated, etc, etc, to learn anything deeper than what you'd possibly get from the three other media types I mentioned above.
            - -Many insiders as angelo shows have tunnel vision.

            Sal first appeared in The Ring Annual ratings in 1979 while Lopez still the champ.

            https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T...rweight--1970s

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            • #7
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
              - -Many insiders as angelo shows have tunnel vision.

              Sal first appeared in The Ring Annual ratings in 1979 while Lopez still the champ.

              https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/T...rweight--1970s
              Good point. Sanchez first hit the top 10 ratings around September 1979, so he was a known quantity within the sport.

              Just that Lopez was held in high regard and the media wasn't prepped for how good Sanchez was.

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              • #8
                Michael bentt vs Tommy Morrison comes to mind. possibly Carlos baldomir vs zab Judah too ( even tho the judges had it close)

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                • #9
                  It wasn't a win but Azumah Nelson against Sanchez was a huge surprise.

                  I guess as far as North America goes it would be Pacquiao stopping Lehlo Ledwaba. Larry Merchant said something along the lines of 'I never heard of the guy but after this we are going to be hearing a lot about him' .

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
                    Corey Sanders the golfer knocking out Wladimir Klitschko
                    - -Corey was a legend on the ol' AOL forum long before he speared Wlad.

                    He was also a schoolboy sprinter and pro Rugby player in addition to his golf.

                    If you look at the Wlad match, it highlights the weakness of the AMA trainer and management in making a puny 16' ring against a early doors Ko specialist. A few fights later Wlad switched to manny and the rest history...

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