Were Patterson and Ingo the worst heavyweight champs ever ?

[QueensburyRules]

Yes, Jeffries said Johnson would have always beaten him. But Johnson said a prime Jeffries would have been too much for him. Foreman said a Prime Frazier would have been too much for him. Sometimes people are just being polite do not read that much into it !

- -Fighters being concussed after a hard fight being exploited by the scavenger media types is part and parcel of boxing to this day.

See Jim Grey.

[ShoulderRoll]

Yes, Jeffries said Johnson would have always beaten him. But Johnson said a prime Jeffries would have been too much for him. Foreman said a Prime Frazier would have been too much for him. Sometimes people are just being polite do not read that much into it !

It's well documented that Jeffries said he couldn't have beaten Johnson even on his best day.

But when or where did Johnson say that prime Jeffries would have been too much for him? Do you have a source?

[Dempsey19]

It's well documented that Jeffries said he couldn't have beaten Johnson even on his best day.

But when or where did Johnson say that prime Jeffries would have been too much for him? Do you have a source?

Johnson told ring magazine that Jeffries was the greatest.

You’re missing the point here.

Both the Klitschkos say the other was better. Marciano said Valdes would have beaten him.

Most of the time fighters are just being polite and respectful, the fact that you and Queenie are having an argument over something as banal as this is ridiculous.

If tomorrow Fury says that he isn’t sure he’d beat Lomachenko does that mean you’ll start rating Lomachenko as the best heavyweight in the world !

[Rusty Tromboni]

Yes, Jeffries said Johnson would have always beaten him. But Johnson said a prime Jeffries would have been too much for him. Foreman said a Prime Frazier would have been too much for him. Sometimes people are just being polite do not read that much into it !

Exactly.


The fact that Jeffries could go so deep against Jackson considering the condition he was in pretty much illustrates that a pime Jeffries would have won.

jackson lost to Willard when willard took him deep. While not as tall and lanky, Jeffries was certainly stronger and better conditioned that Willard, as well as being more skilled, and probably a better puncher.

When you get beat, though, it really is in poor taste to discredit your opponent. Even if everyone knows the conditions which led to your defeat. there's no better way to power-wash away sympathy others have for you than to rail on your opponent.

[ShoulderRoll]

Johnson told ring magazine that Jeffries was the greatest.

You’re missing the point here.

Both the Klitschkos say the other was better. Marciano said Valdes would have beaten him.

Most of the time fighters are just being polite and respectful, the fact that you and Queenie are having an argument over something as banal as this is ridiculous.

If tomorrow Fury says that he isn’t sure he’d beat Lomachenko does that mean you’ll start rating Lomachenko as the best heavyweight in the world !

Which issue of Ring magazine, do you happen to know? Is there a link?

I want to verify that Johnson said that.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wow. Just wow.

More brilliancies from our resident Down's Syndrome kid.

So now you want to deny facts?

Please show me this secret footage you're in possession of. You'd make a lot of money off of it, and you'd be doing both Johnson's legacy and the Boxing public a tremendous service by sharing these rarities.


So come on, Safe Spaces, where is it? Where's the footage showcasing Johnson's greatness?

Everything available shows him struggling. Often with men half his size.


What happened to the days when you kids used to kill yourself? Don't you want a whole page dedicated to you in the Year Book?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Which issue of Ring magazine, do you happen to know? Is there a link?

I want to verify that Johnson said that.

hahahaahhaaha!


Safe Spaces you kill me.


now you want evidence!? Wasn't it enough evidence when you pissed on the rug and I rubbed your nose in it? (you can wipe it off now).

Johnson looks like shyte on film. There's no dis*****g that. But now you wanna hear what someone might have said as if it means anything.

stick to your Kimbo Slice, clearly Boxing isn't for you.

[john l]

LOL, Primo smacked dudes w/ elbows that Floyd never had to worry about.

I know this is a weird conversation. Heavyweight is a nebulous term. Floyd had waaaay more skill than Primo Carnera. But you really can't pick him to win that fight.

Do you even think he beats Earnie Shaaf?

Yes and yes

[john l]

Have you never seen the footage of Johnson? He's dog s h i t. Even by the standards of the day he wan't anything special.

Seriously, he feasted on men half his size, or twice his age. And even then he relied heavily on clinching.

It's pathetic to watch. It's even more pathetic for people to repeat lies in 2019, when you have the internet at your disposal for fact-checking.

Next you'll be telling me Sun Tzu was a real person, he did your uncle's dry cleaning. Martin Luther King Jr. didn't plagerize. and Muhammd was real, too, he was marco polo's guide across the desert.

Any more myths you wish to perpetuate?

LMAO you have no idea what your talking about!!! Johnson beat ALL the VERY good black fighters of the day. Guys you have never seen or heard about like Langford, McVey, Jeannette and even Denver Ed martin all better then Burns(except MAYBE Martin)Now im done repeating myself and you have boxing homework to do.

[john l]

Exactly.


The fact that Jeffries could go so deep against Jackson considering the condition he was in pretty much illustrates that a pime Jeffries would have won.

jackson lost to Willard when willard took him deep. While not as tall and lanky, Jeffries was certainly stronger and better conditioned that Willard, as well as being more skilled, and probably a better puncher.

When you get beat, though, it really is in poor taste to discredit your opponent. Even if everyone knows the conditions which led to your defeat. there's no better way to power-wash away sympathy others have for you than to rail on your opponent.

Who the he ll is "Jackson"