Pernell Whitaker, best in the past 30 years?

[john l]

Stephen "Breadman" Edwards just mentioned something similar in his Daily Bread column today.

He said the '87 version of Chavez who beat Rosario was as good as Duran and Armstrong.

Yea that was his "Clevland Williams fight" he went though Rosario like he was slapping and Rosario was maybe the biggest punching 35pder of last 40yrs. Breadman is VERY smart boxing guy, and I wish he would write more. Taking over THE RING from that idiot dougie fisher would be a GREAT start.

[QueensburyRules]

Cong**** on the dumbest set of posts in a while!!! Like I said an ELITE defense will not allow you to have a good offense(for the 3rd and last time). As for the rest of your BS I got a good laugh thx

- -TUE 50-0 grade C- offense. Nobody wants to rewatch his fights or drink dirty dishwater.

[john l]

- -TUE 50-0 grade C- offense. Nobody wants to rewatch his fights or drink dirty dishwater.

Yea nobody just has the most PPVs sold smdh.

[Ritz Kola]

Let me get this right. This thread had 2-3 REAL Core fans actually knowledgeable about the sport, and the rest were clear casuals with a hate-boner for Floyd. John and ShoulderRoll wrote facts and the guys they were educating ignored the facts, brought up another angle of nonsense, and personal insults. Pathetic. I hope this whole forum isn’t like this- I joined as a break from the dummies on YouTube.

[Ritz Kola]

BTW in the last 30 years. The best would go to Floyd. He’s at #1 hands down, his accomplishments won’t be broken for a very long time. That’s the Hollywood red carpet of resumes in Boxing. The ABCs rate Defense and Clean Punches equally. A great defense will always win a fight as defense is what separates the pros from the amateurs. I got Floyd, Pea, Chavez, SRL beating Manny. Factually, manny only has 2 names on his resume that Floyd doesn’t- Barrera and Morales. Both HOF. Morales beat him once. Floyd masterfully dominated Marquez who suffered a robbery v Pac and knocked him out in another. Everyone else of note was at catchweight and after a bad performance.

[QueensburyRules]

Yea nobody just has the most PPVs sold smdh.

- -Manny the Filipino "Dwarf gonna serve me sushi," TUEs words, has the most PPVs and nobody even close.

TUE needed A 23 yr old Canelo, a Manny needing shoulder surgery, and McG making to make his fake record that most agree stinks like his fans do.

[QueensburyRules]

BTW in the last 30 years. The best would go to Floyd. He’s at #1 hands down, his accomplishments won’t be broken for a very long time. That’s the Hollywood red carpet of resumes in Boxing. The ABCs rate Defense and Clean Punches equally. A great defense will always win a fight as defense is what separates the pros from the amateurs. I got Floyd, Pea, Chavez, SRL beating Manny. Factually, manny only has 2 names on his resume that Floyd doesn’t- Barrera and Morales. Both HOF. Morales beat him once. Floyd masterfully dominated Marquez who suffered a robbery v Pac and knocked him out in another. Everyone else of note was at catchweight and after a bad performance.

- -Boyz, say hello to the Nuevo Ellerbeewannabee!

Yeeeehaaawwww, gonna have some real fun now!

[Rusty Tromboni]

Quit already you keep making yourself look like an idiot. 1st May is NOT bigger even at Olympics Pete was at 132, May at 125. You said in last post SRR was also picking on smaller guys and when I pointed out no he was not, you come back with SRR was fighting middleweights while he was still a welter???????????? Then how could he have been picking on smaller guys??? Your getting your BS all mixed up lmao. Also Greb was cutting weight to make 160 and he had no "crazy ko percentage" because he was not a big puncher. He had 200+ fights and less then 50% KO percentage he was a great pressure fighter with a great chin, but no big puncher which anyone who has even done a little research knows you casual. Now you gonna tell me about all the Greb fights you have seen???????lmao.BTW Greb would have had to cut off a leg to make 147 you really don't know sh it do you?

Do you not know grammar or punctuation? That would also explain your inability to comprehend simple sentences.

Mayweather is 5'8", 72" reach. Whitaker was 5'6", 69" reach. Whitaker never cut the extra weight, which Floyd did. Floyd was much more conscious of adding divisional belts, while Whitaker won two of the original 8.

Robinson weighed in comfortably as a Middleweight before he even won the Ww crown. What's so hard about that to digest. Just watch the footage, he's bigger than almost everyone he ever shares the ring with.
But where that magical finishing ability go when he fought Maxim?

Greb fought a particular style to exploit a particular advantage - in no way was that to sit-down on his punches and slog it out with much bigger men. It's well documented that he fought regularly and usually spotted his opponents a great deal of size. This is not news. Ignorance is not a defense.

I'll take Gibbons, Loughran, Tunney, Smith, Brennan, Walker, over the likes of Bobo Olson and Rocky Graziano any day.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Stephen "Breadman" Edwards just mentioned something similar in his Daily Bread column today.

He said the '87 version of Chavez who beat Rosario was as good as Duran and Armstrong.

People say a lot of things. Especially when they are saying it to get paid. Whether or not it makes sense is another matter.

Use your own eyes, and your own brain. Rosario had a huge punch, but so did Earnie Shavers. Does anyone consider him anyone's best win? Maybe Quarry, who was old and undersized and won sooo dominantly.

Chavez looked great against Rosario, but he wouldn't have looked that great against a lot of other fighters. He wouldn't have beaten Buchanan. He wouldn't have beaten Ambers. He definitely would not have beaten Armstrong or Duran.

Common sense. use it *******ly.

[The Old LefHook]

Halfwit war! Halfwit war! Get yer tickets. Sugar Ray Robinson couldn't punch. Get yer tickets!