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Heavyweight Champ With Lowest IQ
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- -Neon Leon vs Tom Molineaux, two dull witted Murican champs near 170 yrs apart.
Conditions and rules at the 85 yr fulcrum circa 1895 Dallas, Tx where the first Fitz vs Champ JJCorbett was impending until Texas Legislators made boxing illegal. Their fight ended up in 1897 Reno, Nv for context under Queensbury rules in 4-5 Oz gloves for context .
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Originally posted by The Old LefHook View PostWhat is the evidence Molineaux had a low IQ?
Sounds ****** to me, but maybe there's some isolated Quote that you know of that proves otherwise.
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post- -Neon Leon vs Tom Molineaux, two dull witted Murican champs near 170 yrs apart.
Conditions and rules at the 85 yr fulcrum circa 1895 Dallas, Tx where the first Fitz vs Champ JJCorbett was impending until Texas Legislators made boxing illegal. Their fight ended up in 1897 Reno, Nv for context under Queensbury rules in 4-5 Oz gloves for context .
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Originally posted by Joe Beamish View PostI agree, none of the champs were exactly ******. But here's a preliminary vote for Joe Frazier having perhaps the lowest IQ of the bunch.
First of all, I can't imagine him doing well on an IQ "test."
But interviews are a half-decent indicator, and the ones he did with Ali -- obviously among the very smartest HW champs ever -- always seemed to leave old Joe looking a pretty slow, kind of out there, missing the point, taking things too literally and too seriously.
Ringside at the first Leonard/Duran fight, Frazier was asked by an announcer, "Does Roberto Duran remind you of anyone?" Frazier responded, "Charles Manson." The announcer clearly was trying to suggest that Duran's fighting style was reminiscent of Frazier's own, but of course he missed that.
(In Frazier's defense, the facial resemblance of a bearded Duran to Manson wasn't that far off.)
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Sam "Who's necks?!" Peter?
Rid**** Bowe and Leon Spinks come to mind as well. Though Bowe had the ring IQ. Deontay is up there too.
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Originally posted by them_apples View Postfor sure leon spinks. I think he had a disability tbh
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Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post- -Like Bowe, yeah, I worked in a ******ed group home for teens, and they were obviously ******ed, but they had the right to fight and more importantly, Leon seems to have had a good heart and was never the thug Bowe was and exploited badly by DKing.
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