Who Could Roy Jones Not Have Beaten?

[QueensburyRules]

...Lance Armstrong, a decent-good cyclist, won like 12 straight championships because of PEDs. Once off the juice he returned to being decent-good.

PED's can take you to the next level if you're already good. And what was it about RJJ that was special? His athleticism, speed, power, and reflexes...all things that are directly benefited from...P E D's.

USADA beats RJJ. Every time.

/thread

- -BJ, eh?

Lance came outta retirement at an age most in cycling have retired and placed 3rd in the TDF, and he did posting daily drug test results online for public commentary with more transparency than USADA, VADA, and boxing combined.

Really now, we have cretins here claiming everyone does PEDs regardless if they're even in sports.

In short, 100,000 yr primate minds and emotions enhanced with smartypants phones and computers smarter than they are.

I don't make this stuff up. TDF was as dirty as it gets from it's very inception over 100 yrs ago. But what would the likes of you and your ilk really know with such ancient brain function?

[TeamElite]

To anyone not aware; robertzimmerman aka Loudunce aka Fat Robert is the absolute laughing stock of easts*deboxing and a personal punchbag of mine. This post briefly sums up what a complete and utter joke this tragic delusional loser truly is;

Roid Jones' Worst Fanboy: robertzimmerman aka Loudunce aka Fat Robert

You'll never see a bigger delusional loser online than this sad freak. Ever.

There's simply no way he can be this much of an creepy obsessed delusional spastic without having OCD and a bunch of learning disabilities and mental disorders.

It's obvious to everyone he's nothing more than a basement-dwelling mentally ill h*mos*xual who's in love - and completely obsessed - with Roid Jones (and can't cope with the fact that Roid will forever be Joe Calzaghe's b*tch).

All he ever does is post endless cringeworthy lies & clueless delusional fanboy nonsense in defense of Roid...then posts cringeworthy opposite double standards towards Joe Calzaghe.

Loudunce believes that not only was Roid Jones not the worst cherrypicking ducker of his generation - which he absolutely was - but not many of the fighters Roid avoided even wanted to box Roid, and it was Roid himself who was ducked LOL.

According to Loudunce, Roid's ducking was all down to "circumstances", Roid's lies were somehow truths or had hidden meanings, and his "true intentions" were the exact opposite of his actions (that of a cherrypicking ducker).

Fat Robert believes it's all somehow "the biggest misconception in boxing".

The only "misconception" is Robert's grasp on reality.

The freak ignores all facts and logic and simply lies & invents his own skewed personal version of reality that fits into a fantasy world which revolves around an angelic Roid Jones, until, amongst others, an extremely patient general zod or myself completely destroys his fanboy nonsense. He's been repeatedly proven wrong, humiliated, and had countless lies & dumb arguments debunked on these otherwise great forums over the years.

Yet like clockwork, Fat Robert will eventually simply return and parrot the exact same endless false inaccurate cr@p over & over. Word for word. Rinse and repeat. For 6 years and counting.

He's completely incapable of having a rational debate, or able to see outside of his imaginary world. How can someone remain so clueless? He's a complete waste of time. Only good for ridiculing.

Robert passes all his lies & nonsense off as fact.

The loser genuinely believes he knows better that the former President of HBO Sports, Seth Abraham, who reluctantly admitted his ludicrous HBO contracts he gifted Roid Jones, Jr were a huge mistake and confirmed Roid Jones was a ducker who didn't want to box the best opposition.

Somehow all this is whilst being too thick to do ANY research of his own.

Loudunce, by definition, is delusional.

So don't be fooled be any post Loudunce makes, it's guaranteed to be laughable nonsense. His "opinions" are beyond worthless.

He just doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

Fat Robert wasn't even following boxing during Roid Jones' prime (which is reflected in his obvious lack of knowledge); he developed his obsession after watched YouTube highlight clips of Roid.

He also completely ignores the fact that Jones was a steroid-fueled drugs cheat and an animal abusing low-life.

He has no business even debating Roid Jones - yet Loudunce mindlessly agrees with any fanboy post about Jones - regardless of its actual content or how wrong it may be - and will always reply to literally any post which is even mildly critical of Jones to leap to his defense with his usual clueless pompous tedious drivel, 24-7-365.

Yes, every day of his worthless life he's scouring the internet looking to engage with anyone about his hero. He posts his crap everywhere.

The most predictable, boring, transparent, and worst poster ever.

He clearly knows nothing about boxing, and - p*ssy that he is - has never even trained. He's just a useless creepy mentally ill f@ggot who admits he's like 50lbs overweight. Embarrassing.

The pathetic fat pile of lard also has a slipped disc, which he no doubt suffered whilst sat at his pc m@sturbating over Roid Jones' nude selfies.

He is also truly, mindbogglingly hypocritical.

Incredibly Loudunce, aka Fat Robert tries to make jokes about other posters' mental health, "taking meds", "seeking help", calling other posters "kings of spin" & "should be politicians"...while always trying to argue against reality and explicitly displaying these delusions, learning disabilities and mental disorders every single day. What an absolute spastic. He must have ZERO self awareness. Tragic.

Imagine him arguing his crap in a court of law; he'd be immediately dismissed and detained under the mental health act.

Worse still, the sad pretentious freak thinks he's some kind of intellectual. LOL. He actually tries to patronize other posters.

No one on esb wants to even entertain the useless deluded creep at all anymore. He's unable to articulate his points concisely, resulting in pages of this pretentious, tediously long-winded patronizing clueless fanboy nonsense, which no one can be bothered - or has the time - to painstakingly pick apart. Even debate king bailey seems bored with schooling the sad pompous ponce. general zod has also given up (for now). It's proven to be pointless anyway, due to his delusions. He's a lost cause.

Whatever meds he takes clearly don't work. At all.

The only plus side is that Roid Jones' tiny fanclub's hopeless attempts to deny the truth about Roid - and getting constantly proven wrong - have backfired horribly and inadvertently helped to expose all the very things that Roid is accused of. Hilarious.

Plus, Robert does make for an excellent punchbag, on and offline.

So who do you think you are, Robert? You're not even ***** under my boot, freak.

I would - and will - punch ***** out of you just for being such a complete and utter pompous spastic.

Seriously Robert, just kill yourself. It's your only way out. Plus you'll be doing any potential future generations of Loudunce's a massive favour.

No doubt the complete p*ssy will try to dismiss all this spot-on ridicule he gets as "hate-fueled rants" or "nonsense". And pretend to laugh through his humiliation. Denial is his best friend.

It's fun battering such an easy target as poor Robert.

But the truth is the truth.

It absolutely kills Fat Robert that Roid Jones was never the champion in any division he competed in, was a drugs cheat, a compulsive liar, and the biggest cherrypicking ducker of his generation - and there's absolutely nothing Robert can do about it.

You can spot his personality disorders a mile off.

Loudunce is a slave to his delusions, OCD, mental disorders, and creepy obsession with Roid Jones. Posting nothing but lies and complete nonsense 24-7-365. I bet he can't even sleep properly because of it.

On esb he had to resort to siding with herolgee and dinovelvet; two of the worst, most worthless posters this forum's ever seen (other than himself obviously).

A complete laughing stock.

No one has any respect whatsoever for Loudunce or his delusional "opinions". He has no credibility. None.

Like a flat earther or conspiracy nut, his "opinions" are worthless; all he has is his delusions - and the more he's proven wrong with facts and reality, the further he retreats into his fantasy world and the more deluded he becomes. Stuck in his cycle of delusion forever.

He's the biggest joke on these forums.

I could spent all night laughing at Loudunce, though like most here I have a life.

Go away, Robert. You're not wanted. Anywhere.

p.s. Whoever knows Loudunce, aka Fat Robert, aka robertzimmerman offline, pm me the details of the sad obese worthless freak.

[TeamElite]

My old friend Bat.

How's it going?

We can't do this dance again.

We've done it too many times now. But you know that Liles and Dariusz didn't want to fight Roy, and you know that Toney had knocked out Littles before he fought Roy.

HAHAHAHAHA!

What a load of *****!

Literally no one else on the planet would believe the complete and utter b0llocks Fat Robert posts. Not even Roid Jones, Jr himself.

Think about that for a second. That's how deluded Fat Robert is. All alone in the Loudunce Fantasy World.

This useless p*ssy can't even reply to my last devastating thread which exposes Roid Jones, Jr and destroys Fat Robert's embarrassingly ****** lies and hilarious delusions;

Flashback...Rivals Roid Jones, Jr ducked: Steve Collins (and more)

I bet he can't even bear to read it. Fat Robert hopes that if he just ignores it, it will somehow go away and he can continue posting his already-debunked lies & endless nonsense, hoping I won't notice. Tragic. It's worse than when general zod used to completely school him on esb.

In just 3 threads I've posted more relevant information on Roid Jones, Jr than fat Robert ever has, or ever will.

Just think; I haven't even started a thread documenting Roid Jones' duck of Dariusz Michalczewski yet......or bothered to tediously spell out most of Roid Jones' other ducks to this useless ****** Loudunce...yet clueless innocent fool Fat Robert aka Loudunce thinks the subject has been "done to death".

Imagine his mental state when I do.

[TeamElite]

There are no double standards at all.

Roy missed out on certain guys, but then he chose other guys who were available, and he moved through the weights to fight them.

What did Joe do?

He stayed in a dead division for 14 years, where he had to kill himself to make weight, to fight mainly C class opposition for a lightly regarded organisation. And we know that he was more than happy to do that. And that was his prerogative. But any implication made by anyone that he didn't want to do that and that he was starved of fighting better opposition, is completely deluding themselves.

The sole reason why he didn't gain his due respect and recognition before he demolished Lacy, was because he was happy with Frank W and the opponents that he was being provided with. He was happy to fight a guy like Mario Veit again, despite the fact that he'd already beaten him in a round a few years earlier. He was also happy fighting guys like Mandredo.

Stuck under Frank W's contractual thumb?

Ha!

Yeah, okay mate.

I'm sure Frank held a gun to his head and literally forced him to keep signing contract extensions.

Please!

I lived through the era. Joe killed himself to make weight to fight in a weak division, and he blew his Showtime contract because he wouldn't fight in the U.S. to raise his profile. He's also on record stating how proud he was of his number of WBO defences.

Don't imply that he wanted the bigger fights earlier but he couldn't get them. No. That's not what happened at all. It was his choice to spend 14 years at SMW with Frank W. The guy was happy to fight guys like Salem, Veit, Mkrtchyan and Ashira etc, even when he was in his 30's.

Saying that he moved up and fought in the U.S. as soon as he could is an absolute joke.

ROFL.

The double standards of this clueless spastic are f'kkin hilarious!

Yet he's so damn dumb & deluded that he somehow genuinely doesn't even realize it. TRAGIC.

Literally everything Fat Robert posts is absolute nonsense.

I could spend days tearing apart the endless utter utter b*llocks this obese basement-dwelling loser has posted on Calzaghe and the "absolutely laughable" double standards the thick c*nt tries to apply to Jones & Calzaghe (& Hopkins. & DM).

He's an absolute joke. Only worth ridiculing.

[robertzimmerman]

They formerly believed idiocy was a hindrance to success. But more recent studies have shown a lack of intelligence to be highly advantageous to success as those individuals who are unaware of their inaccuracies or the limitations of their assumptions tend to be much more emphatic in upholding their beliefs and proceed undeterred by contrary information. Obviously there are drawbacks. But society has advanced to a point that there are so many safety nets, these such individuals seldom feel the full brunt of their poor decisions and can rather comfortably reset and try again. Conversely, more intelligent individuals, through experience, tend to become more contemplative and practice safer, more conservative strategies. They're open to new ideas; and are willing the change course in light on new evidence.

Robertzimmerman is the text book example of the successful idiot. He's so ****** its painful. But being numb to his own idiocy, he marches forward pronouncing his rubbish in defiance of fact. A smarter person might have just changed his mind, or been left exhausted trying to defy the truth. But Zimmerman simply cannot grasp reality. So his commitment is hasn't wavered.

He'll never change. he'll never "see the light". He'll actually get worse. But he'll be more content with himself. A most pathetic "victory".

You have written 3 paragraphs of absolutely NOTHING.

All you've offered in 2 posts is waffle and contradictions.

Either address the points I made or move along.

[robertzimmerman]

- -SuperJoe invited Kelly to the Kessler fight, but I dunno if Kelly took him up on it. We know post Taylor I is when his personal problems first surfaced that led to ongoing health prob when he put his fist thru a window and picked up a dangerous staph infection during that treatment.

Roy was always the money fighter in the subheavy divisions, not Pavlik, but Darius was making as much in Germany.

And yeah, you can hold your breath and jump up and down til you turn blue, but Darius came to America to promote a Roy fight and nobody was interested.

Darius lost that 49th to a guy Roy took an easy decision over, Gonzales. Roy idolaters exploded in glee, but little did they know payback was gonna be their bltch.

In 2008, the Pavlik fight was there to be made. Pavlik's team wanted it. HBO wanted it. But then Joe made a bizarre comment. He said that he didn't want to face Pavlik, as in his opinion, he'd done nothing to warrant a fight with him. He felt that he was overrated. But then he claimed that he actually offered Pavlik a fight directly after beating Lacy, but Pavlik had turned it down.

As we all know, Joe demolished Lacy in 2006. But Pavlik was an unknown NABF champ back then who'd done nothing. So why on earth did Joe want to fight an unknown NABF, MW champ in 2006?

If Pavlik hadn't done anything to warrant a fight in 2008, how could he have done so 2 years earlier??

Pavlik was big news in 2008. It would have done great PPV numbers and he wouldn't have had to have given Pavlik a 50/50 split of everything like what he agreed to with Roy. He also would have gotten huge credit for beating him (I'm certain he would have done) just like Hopkins did. But he fought Roy instead, despite the fact that he'd said that Roy had been shot since he lost to Johnson and Tarver over 4 years earlier.

Regarding Dariusz, I don't have to jump up and down. His advisor admits to purposely ignoring HBO's calls for a meet in 2001, as they were pi$$ed that Roy wouldn't go to Germany. They also quashed the idea of a double header without wanting to discuss any specifics. They clearly didn't want the fight and Dariusz' resume reflects that. He wouldn't give up his lightly regarded WBO belt after he beat Hill, and there was no way he was going to face Roy when he could stay in Germany and fight C class guys for great money. In 2003, nobody was interested in a Roy-Dariusz fight anymore. Again, talks had fizzled out 2 years earlier, and Roy was up at HW. Dariusz was old news.

[robertzimmerman]

...Lance Armstrong, a decent-good cyclist, won like 12 straight championships because of PEDs. Once off the juice he returned to being decent-good.

PED's can take you to the next level if you're already good. And what was it about RJJ that was special? His athleticism, speed, power, and reflexes...all things that are directly benefited from...P E D's.

USADA beats RJJ. Every time.

/thread

It's utterly hilarious to compare the careers of Roy and Lance.

Please tell me what Roy took exactly.

Tell me when he started taking it.

Tell me when he stopped taking it.

Tell me the exact benefits it gave him.

I'll save you the time: You cannot answer any of the above questions.

There's footage of Roy at 17 years old displaying the exact same gifts that he had as a pro. So was his father pumping him full of PEDS at their Pensacola farm back in the 80's?

There are no PEDS that give you the attributes that Roy had. We've never seen anybody like Roy, and his peak was 20 years ago.

The only controversy of his entire career was against Richard Hall. And Hall had TEN TIMES the amount that Roy had in his system. Think about that for a second: TEN TIMES the amount. And what happened? Hall took an absolute hiding. Yet you want to imply that Roy relied on these super human PEDS and then he came crashing down after he stopped taking them?

Get back in the real world.

Roy was tested in fights after Hall, yet he never failed a test. Yet he showed the exact same attributes, and he dominated in the exact same way for a further THREE years until he dropped back from HW at 35.

Please explain what happened.

Did you follow Chris Byrd's career?

Chris Byrd took punches from both of the K Bros, as well as Ike and Evander, yet he was folded by Shaun George when he dropped back to LHW. Like Roy, he also said he was completely devoid of energy and strength and that he'd took the weight off too soon. The same thing also happened to Antonio Tarver and Chad Dawson.

I've spoken to 'Ice man' John Scully on here who spoke of the nightmare that Chad had in camp when preparing for his fight with Andre Ward.

Roy was told by Mackie Shilstone that burning muscle quickly at advanced age can effect the immune system. And Mackie also expected Tarver to be flat after he'd lost muscle after appearing in 'Rocky Balboa' to drop back to LHW to face Hopkins.

If you go back and watch Roy's first fight with Tarver, he was absolutely exhausted. He was running on fumes.

Roy was a reflex based fighter who fought with an unorthadox style which was based around split second timing. It was a mixture of age and the weight loss at an advanced age that finished Roy, not the fact that he just stopped taking some magical super human PEDS.

Roy needed to either retire early or change his his style to compensate for his age. But he did neither and paid the price.

[Rusty Tromboni]

You have written 3 paragraphs of absolutely NOTHING.

All you've offered in 2 posts is waffle and contradictions.

Either address the points I made or move along.

I didn't say you had to provide further proof in confirmation of my post.

You've made countless posts throughout this thread in argument with numerous posters. And not matter how staggering the facts against you, you proceed unimpeded by the truth. You're in complete denial. That was well-established long ago.

[Rusty Tromboni]

It's utterly hilarious to compare the careers of Roy and Lance.

Please tell me what Roy took exactly.

Tell me when he started taking it.

Tell me when he stopped taking it.

Tell me the exact benefits it gave him.

I'll save you the time: You cannot answer any of the above questions.

There's footage of Roy at 17 years old displaying the exact same gifts that he had as a pro. So was his father pumping him full of PEDS at their Pensacola farm back in the 80's?

There are no PEDS that give you the attributes that Roy had. We've never seen anybody like Roy, and his peak was 20 years ago.

The only controversy of his entire career was against Richard Hall. And Hall had TEN TIMES the amount that Roy had in his system. Think about that for a second: TEN TIMES the amount. And what happened? Hall took an absolute hiding. Yet you want to imply that Roy relied on these super human PEDS and then he came crashing down after he stopped taking them?

Get back in the real world.

Roy was tested in fights after Hall, yet he never failed a test. Yet he showed the exact same attributes, and he dominated in the exact same way for a further THREE years until he dropped back from HW at 35.

Please explain what happened.

Did you follow Chris Byrd's career?

Chris Byrd took punches from both of the K Bros, as well as Ike and Evander, yet he was folded by Shaun George when he dropped back to LHW. Like Roy, he also said he was completely devoid of energy and strength and that he'd took the weight off too soon. The same thing also happened to Antonio Tarver and Chad Dawson.

I've spoken to 'Ice man' John Scully on here who spoke of the nightmare that Chad had in camp when preparing for his fight with Andre Ward.

Roy was told by Mackie Shilstone that burning muscle quickly at advanced age can effect the immune system. And Mackie also expected Tarver to be flat after he'd lost muscle after appearing in 'Rocky Balboa' to drop back to LHW to face Hopkins.

If you go back and watch Roy's first fight with Tarver, he was absolutely exhausted. He was running on fumes.

Roy was a reflex based fighter who fought with an unorthadox style which was based around split second timing. It was a mixture of age and the weight loss at an advanced age that finished Roy, not the fact that he just stopped taking some magical super human PEDS.

Roy needed to either retire early or change his his style to compensate for his age. But he did neither and paid the price.

Talk about logorrhea...

I have to admit... as pathetic as it is, the lengths this guy will go to are impressive. But he definitely needs a life intervention.

[BattlingNelson]

To anyone not aware; robertzimmerman aka Loudunce aka Fat Robert is the absolute laughing stock of easts*deboxing and a personal punchbag of mine. This post briefly sums up what a complete and utter joke this tragic delusional loser truly is;

Roid Jones' Worst Fanboy: robertzimmerman aka Loudunce aka Fat Robert

You'll never see a bigger delusional loser online than this sad freak. Ever.

There's simply no way he can be this much of an creepy obsessed delusional spastic without having OCD and a bunch of learning disabilities and mental disorders.

It's obvious to everyone he's nothing more than a basement-dwelling mentally ill h*mos*xual who's in love - and completely obsessed - with Roid Jones (and can't cope with the fact that Roid will forever be Joe Calzaghe's b*tch).

All he ever does is post endless cringeworthy lies & clueless delusional fanboy nonsense in defense of Roid...then posts cringeworthy opposite double standards towards Joe Calzaghe.

Loudunce believes that not only was Roid Jones not the worst cherrypicking ducker of his generation - which he absolutely was - but not many of the fighters Roid avoided even wanted to box Roid, and it was Roid himself who was ducked LOL.

According to Loudunce, Roid's ducking was all down to "circumstances", Roid's lies were somehow truths or had hidden meanings, and his "true intentions" were the exact opposite of his actions (that of a cherrypicking ducker).

Fat Robert believes it's all somehow "the biggest misconception in boxing".

The only "misconception" is Robert's grasp on reality.

The freak ignores all facts and logic and simply lies & invents his own skewed personal version of reality that fits into a fantasy world which revolves around an angelic Roid Jones, until, amongst others, an extremely patient general zod or myself completely destroys his fanboy nonsense. He's been repeatedly proven wrong, humiliated, and had countless lies & dumb arguments debunked on these otherwise great forums over the years.

Yet like clockwork, Fat Robert will eventually simply return and parrot the exact same endless false inaccurate cr@p over & over. Word for word. Rinse and repeat. For 6 years and counting.

He's completely incapable of having a rational debate, or able to see outside of his imaginary world. How can someone remain so clueless? He's a complete waste of time. Only good for ridiculing.

Robert passes all his lies & nonsense off as fact.

The loser genuinely believes he knows better that the former President of HBO Sports, Seth Abraham, who reluctantly admitted his ludicrous HBO contracts he gifted Roid Jones, Jr were a huge mistake and confirmed Roid Jones was a ducker who didn't want to box the best opposition.

Somehow all this is whilst being too thick to do ANY research of his own.

Loudunce, by definition, is delusional.

So don't be fooled be any post Loudunce makes, it's guaranteed to be laughable nonsense. His "opinions" are beyond worthless.

He just doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

Fat Robert wasn't even following boxing during Roid Jones' prime (which is reflected in his obvious lack of knowledge); he developed his obsession after watched YouTube highlight clips of Roid.

He also completely ignores the fact that Jones was a steroid-fueled drugs cheat and an animal abusing low-life.

He has no business even debating Roid Jones - yet Loudunce mindlessly agrees with any fanboy post about Jones - regardless of its actual content or how wrong it may be - and will always reply to literally any post which is even mildly critical of Jones to leap to his defense with his usual clueless pompous tedious drivel, 24-7-365.

Yes, every day of his worthless life he's scouring the internet looking to engage with anyone about his hero. He posts his crap everywhere.

The most predictable, boring, transparent, and worst poster ever.

He clearly knows nothing about boxing, and - p*ssy that he is - has never even trained. He's just a useless creepy mentally ill f@ggot who admits he's like 50lbs overweight. Embarrassing.

The pathetic fat pile of lard also has a slipped disc, which he no doubt suffered whilst sat at his pc m@sturbating over Roid Jones' nude selfies.

He is also truly, mindbogglingly hypocritical.

Incredibly Loudunce, aka Fat Robert tries to make jokes about other posters' mental health, "taking meds", "seeking help", calling other posters "kings of spin" & "should be politicians"...while always trying to argue against reality and explicitly displaying these delusions, learning disabilities and mental disorders every single day. What an absolute spastic. He must have ZERO self awareness. Tragic.

Imagine him arguing his crap in a court of law; he'd be immediately dismissed and detained under the mental health act.

Worse still, the sad pretentious freak thinks he's some kind of intellectual. LOL. He actually tries to patronize other posters.

No one on esb wants to even entertain the useless deluded creep at all anymore. He's unable to articulate his points concisely, resulting in pages of this pretentious, tediously long-winded patronizing clueless fanboy nonsense, which no one can be bothered - or has the time - to painstakingly pick apart. Even debate king bailey seems bored with schooling the sad pompous ponce. general zod has also given up (for now). It's proven to be pointless anyway, due to his delusions. He's a lost cause.

Whatever meds he takes clearly don't work. At all.

The only plus side is that Roid Jones' tiny fanclub's hopeless attempts to deny the truth about Roid - and getting constantly proven wrong - have backfired horribly and inadvertently helped to expose all the very things that Roid is accused of. Hilarious.

Plus, Robert does make for an excellent punchbag, on and offline.

So who do you think you are, Robert? You're not even ***** under my boot, freak.

I would - and will - punch ***** out of you just for being such a complete and utter pompous spastic.

Seriously Robert, just kill yourself. It's your only way out. Plus you'll be doing any potential future generations of Loudunce's a massive favour.

No doubt the complete p*ssy will try to dismiss all this spot-on ridicule he gets as "hate-fueled rants" or "nonsense". And pretend to laugh through his humiliation. Denial is his best friend.

It's fun battering such an easy target as poor Robert.

But the truth is the truth.

It absolutely kills Fat Robert that Roid Jones was never the champion in any division he competed in, was a drugs cheat, a compulsive liar, and the biggest cherrypicking ducker of his generation - and there's absolutely nothing Robert can do about it.

You can spot his personality disorders a mile off.

Loudunce is a slave to his delusions, OCD, mental disorders, and creepy obsession with Roid Jones. Posting nothing but lies and complete nonsense 24-7-365. I bet he can't even sleep properly because of it.

On esb he had to resort to siding with herolgee and dinovelvet; two of the worst, most worthless posters this forum's ever seen (other than himself obviously).

A complete laughing stock.

No one has any respect whatsoever for Loudunce or his delusional "opinions". He has no credibility. None.

Like a flat earther or conspiracy nut, his "opinions" are worthless; all he has is his delusions - and the more he's proven wrong with facts and reality, the further he retreats into his fantasy world and the more deluded he becomes. Stuck in his cycle of delusion forever.

He's the biggest joke on these forums.

I could spent all night laughing at Loudunce, though like most here I have a life.

Go away, Robert. You're not wanted. Anywhere.

p.s. Whoever knows Loudunce, aka Fat Robert, aka robertzimmerman offline, pm me the details of the sad obese worthless freak.

I am well aware of his handle on that forum and I personally have nothing at all against the guy. I like debating with him and that's ultimately what a forum is all about. Debating with people who might have a different opinion.

So please. We don't need personal attacks, slandering and character-killings on this board. You can keep that on esb.