Who Could Roy Jones Not Have Beaten?

[GhostofDempsey]

Not really an anomaly, Ruiz just sucks. I see Roy beating the vast majority of alphabet heavyweight champs, as long as they're not too big.

He left the HW division after that win. He was looking at Lewis, Tyson, Wlad, Holyfield...no way he stood a chance against them. Looking back at the HW division, I can't see him beating Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Shavers, Holmes, etc. He would suffer the same fate as Bob Foster every time he tried to step up to HW and Foster was a bigger hitter.

[GhostofDempsey]

IMO it would be more interesting who he’d lose to among his contemporaries because there was a ton of fighters in his divisions that he missed out on.

Good point. Never got to see him in with McClellan, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Eubank, prime Calzaghe, Michalczewski, or Collins.

[BattlingNelson]

Good point. Never got to see him in with McClellan, Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, Eubank, prime Calzaghe, Michalczewski, or Collins.

... and Nunn, Littles, Liles, Michalszewski etc.

[DeeMoney]

RJJ COULD have beaten anyone 200 and below, he is that good of a fighter. But that doesn't mean he would consistently, beat them more often than they beat him, or that I'd favor him. As we all know, sometimes the consistently better fighter doesn't always win (upsets happen) here are the guys I'd favor over RJJ at given weights:

1 middle
SRR, Hagler, Monzon, Burley, we have no footage of Greb so I can't say; Hearns is push for me at 160.

2 Super Middle
Nobody (I know he missed a lot of guys at SMW, but I'd favor him over all of them)

3 Light Heavy
Langford (yeah he's from a more primitive era but he was a freaking tank) Charles, & Spinks. Moore is 50/50 for me & I give a slight nod over Foster (though its close), and Conn

4 Cruiser
Holyfield- just more proven at that weight

5 Heavyweight
A number of guys, the top modern Super Heavies would just be too much for him, and the top notch legends of days gone by. He just wasn't really a heavyweight

[QueensburyRules]

- -Field couldn't box and also turned down Roy to fight TwoTonToney, and how'd that work out for him?

Roy never lost to Ruiz like Field did. Need we beat a dead horse further?

[SheenLantern]

He left the HW division after that win. He was looking at Lewis, Tyson, Wlad, Holyfield...no way he stood a chance against them. Looking back at the HW division, I can't see him beating Dempsey, Tunney, Louis, Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Liston, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Shavers, Holmes, etc. He would suffer the same fate as Bob Foster every time he tried to step up to HW and Foster was a bigger hitter.

Why are you listing ATGs when I only said he would beat alphabet champs?

[GhostofDempsey]

Why are you listing ATGs when I only said he would beat alphabet champs?

Ok, so which alphabet champs would he beat? From 90s to today?

[SheenLantern]

Ok, so which alphabet champs would he beat? From 90s to today?

Bermane Stiverne, Ruslan Chagaev, Chris Byrd, guys like that.

[SheenLantern]

More detail: Here is everyone that held a significant belt between 1990 and now that I think Roy would beat:

Michael Bentt
Herbie Hide
Bruce Seldon
Oliver McCall
Chris Byrd
John Ruiz
Clifford Etienne
Hasim Rahman
Lamon Brewster
Nikolai Valuev
Siarhei Liakhovich
Oleg Maskayev
Sultan Ibragimov
Ruslan Chagaev
Samuel Peter
David Haye
Chris Arreola
Bermane Stiverne

[W1LL]

Damn, just imagine Roy vs. Hagler... I imagine Roy would have done a serious number on Hagler and made him look ordinary. I couldn't split a prime Roy and a prime Joe Calzaghe. Both ATGs, Roy probably ranking higher out of the two. I also think Roy done the right thing not going after Lennox Lewis at Heavyweight.