List of all African-American boxing champions (200+)

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #71
    Originally posted by Stokely
    Lol what you’re not understanding is that African American is an ethnic group which has historically included mixed race individuals. In America, if you have at least one black parent and retain a lot of black features then you’d be considered African American. That’s how it works. It might be different in other countries and other ethnic groups, but among African Americans mixed people are included. Similar to how mexico is a mixed race society, yet whether you’re a mestizo, white, Amerindian or something else, you’ll always be considered mexican. Simple really.

    Andre Ward is one of the 200+ African American champions. Stay mad boi
    - -So, Brokely proving African American a narrowly defined political definition of race is it?

    So Ward a male with a white father can't be an Anglo, Irish, Polish, or Chinese American, eh?

    I see you ignore octos and others one drops that any of us may have in ancient unrecorded ancestries.

    Ace comedian you are. Gonna go on the pro tour?

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    • billeau2
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      #72
      Originally posted by Stokely
      The only fool here is you. Race deniers are very foolish.
      I aint gonna read dat! Just know that people who argue that race is genetically determined and do not want to read anything that qualifies this assertion (not even necessarily disagreeing) are silly!

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        #73
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -So, Brokely proving African American a narrowly defined political definition of race is it?

        So Ward a male with a white father can't be an Anglo, Irish, Polish, or Chinese American, eh?

        I see you ignore octos and others one drops that any of us may have in ancient unrecorded ancestries.

        Ace comedian you are. Gonna go on the pro tour?
        Andre has no right to make that determination when Stoakley has spoken!

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        • billeau2
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          #74
          Originally posted by Stokely
          Lol what you’re not understanding is that African American is an ethnic group which has historically included mixed race individuals. In America, if you have at least one black parent and retain a lot of black features then you’d be considered African American. That’s how it works. It might be different in other countries and other ethnic groups, but among African Americans mixed people are included. Similar to how mexico is a mixed race society, yet whether you’re a mestizo, white, Amerindian or something else, you’ll always be considered mexican. Simple really.

          Andre Ward is one of the 200+ African American champions. Stay mad boi
          Mad? Im enjoying this, no mad about it. African American is a category that is argued, continually redefined...Mostly by members of its own class. College lectures always have well educated individuals arguing over what it means to be African american. That is actually how it works.

          Now you don't like to read... But if you did you would find that the whole conflict of lighter darker is an issue, has social consequences, etc. You are mistaking social conventions for absolute indicators...like Genetics. And equating race as an absolute when in fact it is not.

          You proved it yourself when you said it might be different in other places. Yes it is! now think that through a second...If you had read my post you would see I never denied race, or your project...But you couldn't be bothered lol. It just that race is socially constructed not absolute.

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            #75
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook
            What did they call Obammy, and what was he?
            Hawaiin. His dad was that guy in the old Hawain Punch cartoon...You know who would say "How would you like a nice hawain punch?" By Ilsam By buggery by crook I know Im right on this one!

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            • The Old LefHook
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              #76
              Sorry, Bill, you've got Queensbree on your side, and you already know that is deadly.

              ***** was never referred to as a mulatto, but a black. All blacks proudly claimed him. Case closed.

              No one went around calling him a Hawaiian, either. It was noted that he was, that is all, then everyone went right back to calling him a black, which they still do. When was the last time you saw him referred to as a Hawaiian man?
              Last edited by The Old LefHook; 09-04-2019, 11:07 AM.

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              • QueensburyRules
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                #77
                - -The tea baggers say ***** was an undocumented American born in Kenya where he has bukos relatives as well in Indonesian.

                Jesse Jackson couldn't stand him for stealing all the Jesse Thunder!

                Poor ***** is suffering now ensconced in a $15mil mansion in Martha's Vineyard with secret service quarters enhanced with gumint security upgrades.

                ...yesssss...weep thee for he...boo Hoo Hoo...woe is he...

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                • Stokely
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                  #78
                  These idiots mad because African Americans have the most boxing champions LOL.

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                  • The Old LefHook
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                    #79
                    I can now see these two gentlemen are arguing over two different issues as if they were one. Stoker is content with colloquial notions of race, Billy wants a precise breakdown, even bringing in genetic analysis.

                    Stoker is talking about what people are racially CALLED, Billy about what they racially ARE.

                    Case in point: ***** is CALLED the first black president. It would not exactly be common to hear him referred to as the first Hawaiian president, we can agree. He doesn't have a drop of Hawaiian in him. He is NOT the first black president, either, but will always be popularly called that.

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                    • QueensburyRules
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Stokely
                      These idiots mad because African Americans have the most boxing champions LOL.
                      - -Not provable, but obviously the concept has elevated you to your pinnacle hoist upon your own petard...Pheeewwee!

                      Clean out yer stained eyeballs for a look in the Ring or boxrec top ten and AAs barely perceptible...only in boxing.

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