List of all African-American boxing champions (200+)

[Stokely]

Have to concede that second point as you are a perfect example of it, mental age that is...

"Races are real" lol... How real is that? more or less real than skin color? than regional differences? I am begging to know where race is inscribed beyond human beings deciding that skin colors and region produce certain differences. So given that we have skin colors and that we have certain regions, what does race do that makes it more than those traits? Cause you wont find a genetic indicator, and environmental differences will always trumph racial stereo types... Exchange a black kid from the bronx with a white kid up the road in conneticut and guess what happens to the stereotype of each kid?

I beg to differ with some that race understood as such will heal through understanding...When we don't have race we have a million other excuses to kill each other. Bosnia had cities where ******s lived next to Christians, etc and nobody knew the difference and it took one nationalist to provoke genocide...Race? Please...

There are important differences between groups and whether you want to call them races or not, it’s not just skill color. There is already plenty of evidence for gene based racial differences for many traits. The more we find these genes the more you race deniers look foolish. You cannot tell me that Japanese are the exact same as Australian Aborigines.

Bottom line is, you seem angry at the fact that I, a black man, took the time to research the amount of boxing champions people with my same race+nationality combination have. Yet you won’t say anything about the Mexicans, Puerto Rican’s, Japanese, Eastern Euro’s who count their champions LOL.

[Stokely]

Does that mean if white former IBF Heavyweight Title holder Francois Botha who comes from South Africa ever became an American citizen, he would also be included on this list?

No. Because African Americans refers to a group of black people in America that have ancestry tracing in America for hundreds of years. Also known as the American Descendants Of ******

[Stokely]

Who the **** cares? You gotta be either a POS or a SJW to go through the history of champions and divide them into race.

And Andre Ward? You using the “one drop rule” brah? This isn’t 1991 South Africa

What one drop rule? The African American ethnic group historically consists of mulattos as well.

[_Rexy_]

What one drop rule? The African American ethnic group historically consists of mulattos as well.

“One drop rule” is an old law in South Africa where people with white skin, if they had any “mixed blood” were considered “colored” and had a different set of laws.

[QueensburyRules]

Yet you won’t say anything about the Mexicans, Puerto Rican’s, Japanese, Eastern Euro’s who count their champions LOL.

- -Never seen a comprehensive list of those groups nor one of white champs.

You sorta Black One Man Band here, quaint but not a full suite.

[Stokely]

- -Never seen a comprehensive list of those groups nor one of white champs.

You sorta Black One Man Band here, quaint but not a full suite.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexican_boxing_world_champions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Puerto_Rican_boxing_world_champions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_boxing_world_champions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_boxing_in_the_Philippines

[QueensburyRules]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...orld_champions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...orld_championsp

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_boxing_world_champions

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hist...he_Philippines

- -Sweet, but you gonna have to join wiki if you wanna play with yer fellow one man band mates as they ain't on this forum.

[Stokely]

- -Sweet, but you gonna have to join wiki if you wanna play with yer fellow one man band mates as they ain't on this forum.

Says who? I can come here and list the black American champions all I want.

[billeau2]

There are important differences between groups and whether you want to call them races or not, it’s not just skill color. There is already plenty of evidence for gene based racial differences for many traits. The more we find these genes the more you race deniers look foolish. You cannot tell me that Japanese are the exact same as Australian Aborigines.

Bottom line is, you seem angry at the fact that I, a black man, took the time to research the amount of boxing champions people with my same race+nationality combination have. Yet you won’t say anything about the Mexicans, Puerto Rican’s, Japanese, Eastern Euro’s who count their champions LOL.

If you as a Black man did your research then you would know that the problem with these gene based traits is that they do not correspond to racial differences. Capiche? Not anger... just righteous indignation.

I never took issue with your list. Your righteous indignation has been aimed at the wrong individual. And how would you know what I would "say" about things? You think you know me or somethin'?

Frankly you are picking a fight on the basis of absolutes when if you had better reading comprehension you might understand the posts made more clearly. I clearly said something very similar to the first statement you made in this post. The thing we disagree about is not that different groups have different ways, traits, etc. What we disagree about is the idea that the mention of Race, somehow jumps over and beyond all these differences into something greater than the differences.

I will reiterate why I disagree with this once again: Genetic differences among human populations DO NOT show a correlation with race. So while it is absolutely true that a Scandinavian individual has a totally different situation, culture, and physical features different than a member of an African group...the fact is that genetically there is a chance that these two groups are more similar that groups that live next to each other with the same skin color and cultural ways...don't believe me LOOK IT UP!

I am not saying that this genetic difference/sameness makes a black tribal member's experience suddenly more similar to a genetic group with similar traits either, that is not the point. The point really is, that there are people like me who believe that while communities all have their own issues, ways, etc, poverty, disease and ignorance are traits that affect any human community without the means to fight against them. And when people think it is race? suddenly we come up with racial stereotypes instead of understanding the root cause of the problem as one afflicting all humanity.

[billeau2]

What one drop rule? The African American ethnic group historically consists of mulattos as well.

man... you really brought a pen knife to a gun fight dude... This forum has gone through some changes and frankly, unfortunately for you, there are a lot of sharp tacks out there right now...not willing to let someone skate by with half backed ideas.

Im going to try to be constructive here: So you mistook the term used in the post and then came back with a blanket statement that is patiently ridiculous.

Are you familiar with Louisiana? You know, the place where many Africans came into this country? The African American ethnic group in Louisiana to this day is highly specialized in how it recognizes different groups of what you call "Mulatto" and whom many would properly refer to as "Creole." Indeed, the lightness of the skin, the amount of African blood, etc all create many classes of individual historically in Louisiana. Creoles in some ways had more rights than white property owners! in new Orleans, other creoles, were considered native, like the Indians who taught many of them how to survive in the Bayous, and still others were considered African Americans.

Its not so cut and dry...