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  • Again silly. There have been two official investigations. The first, Warren Commission, was criticized by conspiracy theorists. The second and very separate investigation however substantiated the first. The conclusion of both was Oswald killed Kennedy from the 6th floor school book depository. No conspiracy was discovered involving the Mafia, Cuba, USSR, or the US government. The second investigation was shown live on Nationwide TV for all to see. Allen Dulles died in 1969. He as such played no part in the second investigation that occurred in the early to mid 70’s. Again after the smoke cleared (regarding the falsely interpreted new aucustic evidence) the second investigation substantiated the first.

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    • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
      Silly. There were two investigations. Both concluded the same bottom line. No evidence of a conspiracy. Oswald acted alone. (As mentioned the second investigation concluded two gunman fired upon Kennedy with only Iswald hitting the mark however this second gunman conclusion was proved wrong years later when the acoustic evidence was more in-depthly analysed).
      I would recommend that you read a book called "The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government." It's written by David Talbot, the founder of the news and opinion website Salon.com

      It's well sourced and quite educational, might change your mind about a lot of things.





      America’s greatest untold story: the United States’ rise to world dominance under the guile of Allen Welsh Dulles, the longest-serving director of the CIA. Drawing on revelatory new materials—including newly discovered U.S. government documents, U.S. and European intelligence sources, the personal correspondence and journals of Allen Dulles’s wife and mistress, and exclusive interviews with the children of prominent CIA officials—Talbot reveals the underside of one of America’s most powerful and influential figures.

      Dulles’s decade as the director of the CIA—which he used to further his public and private agendas—were dark times in American politics. Calling himself “the secretary of state of unfriendly countries,” Dulles saw himself as above the elected law, manipulating and subverting American presidents in the pursuit of his personal interests and those of the wealthy elite he counted as his friends and clients—colluding with ****-controlled cartels, German war criminals, and Mafiosi in the process. Targeting foreign leaders for assassination and overthrowing nationalist governments not in line with his political aims, Dulles employed those same tactics to further his goals at home, Talbot charges, offering shocking new evidence in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

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      • It won’t. Unlike you I’m fully knowledgeable concerning the Kennedy assassination. Two official investigations the second had nothing to do with Dulles as he was dead by that time for years. Both formal in depth investigations collaborated the other.

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        • Internet at its best.
          Wlad vs Chagaev turns into a JFK murder investigation.

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          • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
            There have been two official investigations of the Kennedy assassination. BOTH found no evidence that would allow them to conclude the Cuban govt, the CIA, USSR, or Mafia we’re involved. The first investigation concluded that Oswald acted ALONE. The second investigation concluded THE SAME in terms that Oswald fired all the bullets that hit Kennedy and Governer Conelly. At the time audio evidence which was not available during the first investigation indicated another gunman fired one shot THAT MISSED. However in the years since that audio evidence had been further analyzed and DISCOUNTED. The conclusion today is it does not show that a second gunman fired a shot. That leaves two official investigations that pretty much jives with one another. OSWALD ACTED ALONE.
            Oh an official investigation!!!! Why didn't you say so??? Like these affairs are untainted and guaranteed by the truth fairy. Why don't you reference to whom you are responding to? As I said I don't have an opinion about how the hit was done, it is immaterial to me. But you have to be a special kind of idiot to think an official investigation means anything.

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            • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
              Just out of curiosity, who carried out the investigations?
              Hey Dont matter didn't you hear the man? they were official!!! Now go grab my official Captain video decoder ring.

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              • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                Hey Dont matter didn't you hear the man? they were official!!! Now go grab my official Captain video decoder ring.
                hahaha. Yo, I just got reminded of 'A Christmas Story.'

                "Remember to drink your ovaltine!"


                That might mean nothing to you...but it's funny to me. lol

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                • Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
                  It won’t. Unlike you I’m fully knowledgeable concerning the Kennedy assassination. Two official investigations the second had nothing to do with Dulles as he was dead by that time for years. Both formal in depth investigations collaborated the other.
                  You won't indeed...Because you are, like a lot of the sheeple, a close minded idiot who would never risk contaiminting the koolaid you drink with the possibility that things are not as they were made to appear for you to babbbaaaa properly.

                  It does not take a genius to figure out that whomever killed Kennedy, and I don't pretend to care who the button man was...any official task force was designed to supress information. As Shoulder told your dumb @33 Dulles was a member of one of the commissions. What more needs to be said?

                  Conspiracy theories and ideas, like any ideas occur, and do not occur. Sometimes things just happen and other times, they happen because of things set in motion. This has been proven man times in the past. Was Watergate not a conspiracy? What about Mcarthyism? Cause government always does what it is supposed to right idiot?

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                  • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    hahaha. Yo, I just got reminded of 'A Christmas Story.'

                    "Remember to drink your ovaltine!"


                    That might mean nothing to you...but it's funny to me. lol
                    Love that movie... the leg lamp... When Houdini was given the truth he put it back right away because someone said to him "Be careful Son you could put your eye out with that thing!"

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                    • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      Love that movie... the leg lamp... When Houdini was given the truth he put it back right away because someone said to him "Be careful Son you could put your eye out with that thing!"
                      ahahahahaha. Ohhhh man. Love that movie as well...though the 24 hour marathon every Christmas got to be too much

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