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No boxer could have beat Mike Tyson on the 22nd of November, 1986

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  • Originally posted by boxingguy1226
    Ive heard a lot of experts say that the Buster Dougles that beat Tyson would have beaten any heavyweight in history. I know for a fact Bert Sugar said it.
    i doubt that.........tyson was an easy target that night.....
    fair play to buster,but he wasnt anything special

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    • Originally posted by hellfire508
      Oh why not? Tyson is "as fast as a middleweight". "All the experts acknowledged this".

      And when was Walcott a light fighter? In his first couple of fights? He made his debut when he was 16, and a few years later he was over 185 pounds. How many people are fully grown by 16? Not many. "Oh but Mike Tyson was 700lbs when he was 12...". I don't care. Ali was 6"3 and 210 in his prime, but was a light-heavy at 18. Does this mean he was a blow up light-heavy? I don't care what they USED to be, its what they were in their prime. Charles was prime at light-heavy, I'll admit that, though at his peak at heavy he weighed 190 . Patterson and Walcott were at their peak at heavyweight clearly... so you are talking out of your ass.
      "No, George Foreman is not a good win for Ali, because when he was 5, he only weighed 50 pounds."
      And now admit that naturally small men are faster than someone who is huge for his size. Are you that ******? Do you want me to explain why there are weight classes? And how weight can affect a fighter in many ways? 30 to 40 pounds is a lot. Maybe i should explain you why aswell because you're truly delusional.

      Again, Tyson was the second fastest HEAVYWEIGHT of all time. Skinny 180/190 former Middleweights dont count against a bulked up natural 220lb of muscle standing in at 5,11.

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      • Originally posted by Yaman
        Tyson was the second fastest HEAVYWEIGHT of all time. Skinny 180/190 former Middleweights dont count against a bulked up natural 220lb of muscle standing in at 5,11.
        Tyson wasn't natural, he was a steroid user. Compare these two pictures of when he was juicing and when he wasn't.


        And today off the juice.....

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        • Originally posted by micky_knox
          i doubt that.........tyson was an easy target that night.....
          fair play to buster,but he wasnt anything special
          He was on February 10th, 1990.

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          • Originally posted by micky_knox
            forman was nothing but power,however tyson had power along with speed
            Power = Force x Velocity

            Now that the definition of power has been defined, Tyson's punch power is very comparable with Foreman's, isn't it? I say they are equal, with Tyson's punches having less force than Foreman's but with much greater speed.

            If people say Tyson's punches has as much force as Foreman's but with much more speed (believe me, I have heard it before), then they are biased morons. With their logic, Tyson would have the hardest punch in history. Even all you Tyson lovers know it's not true.

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            • Originally posted by SABBATH
              Tyson wasn't natural, he was a steroid user. Compare these two pictures of when he was juicing and when he wasn't.


              And today off the juice.....

              No, he wasn't. Not in his prime.

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              • Yeah this kid is right nobody could beat a prime Tyson besides Douglas,Holyfield,Lewis,Foreman,Ali,Frazier,Ron Lyle,A prime Holmes,Ray Mercer,either Klitchko,Sam Peter,David Tua,Ike Ibeabuchi, and just about any other heavyweight who wasn't paid by Don King to take a dive for him or was just a complete bum.

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                • Originally posted by versatile2k6
                  your stating natural fast middleweights. hell throw in sugar ray leonard while u at it. he pretty much meant average.hell actually no he had welterweight hands be honest with u
                  Oh give it a rest you nutcase.

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                  • Originally posted by Yaman
                    And now admit that naturally small men are faster than someone who is huge for his size. Are you that ******? Do you want me to explain why there are weight classes? And how weight can affect a fighter in many ways? 30 to 40 pounds is a lot. Maybe i should explain you why aswell because you're truly delusional.

                    Again, Tyson was the second fastest HEAVYWEIGHT of all time. Skinny 180/190 former Middleweights dont count against a bulked up natural 220lb of muscle standing in at 5,11.
                    Look you ****** ****, they were heavyweights, are you that ******? Walcott, Charles and Patterson were the heavyweight champions of the world. Are you too ****ing slow to understand this? Dumb ****.

                    In case you forgot... a former "skinny" light-heavyweight kicked Tyson's ass. Evander Holyfield ring any bells?
                    Last edited by hellfire508; 07-23-2006, 03:45 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by hellfire508
                      Look you ****** ****, they were heavyweights, are you that ******? Walcott, Charles and Patterson were the heavyweight champions of the world. Are you too ****ing slow to understand this? Dumb ****.

                      In case you forgot... a former "skinny" light-heavyweight kicked Tyson's ass. Evander Holyfield ring any bells?
                      Temper.. . This ****head got proven wrong now.

                      You're even slower than i thought. I dont care if they were HWs FOR THEIR TIMES. Like i said(Your brain damage must have ignored this) they were small ''heavyweights'' compared to the newer eras. Are you that ******? Did you not catch up with the rest of the world? You probably lived in a cave or something. It is a fact that Tyson was 40/30 pounds heavier than those guys. Its a fact that weight effects fighters in many ways. But i still wont expect you to understand something that simple.

                      And oh yeah..Evander still had 30/40 pounds on the tiny HW's
                      Is there anything else you want me to shatter in pieces in this argument?

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