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  • #11
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - - Ernie Shavers a fringe contender in his beginnings turned into one of the most feared heavies of any era and can hardly be restricted to fringe contender.

    Whooped up on Ali so bad that in previous eras he might be arrested for attempted murder instead of just getting robbed by Ali.
    Almost sent Larry packing too

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    • #12
      Tex Cobb
      Edison Miranda
      Merqui Sosa
      John Molina Jr.

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      • #13
        Tony Ayala Jr. always brought a sense of excitement with him in the ring.

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        • #14
          Gabe Rosado, Derek Chisora, Adam Kownacki

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          • #15
            Originally posted by kara View Post

            Almost sent Larry packing too
            - - People forget it was Renaldo who did send Lar packing, but the ref called Lar back for extra recovery time.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

              - - People forget it was Renaldo who did send Lar packing, but the ref called Lar back for extra recovery time.
              What extra recovery time? The ref gave him and 8 count, did a quick evaluation and than the fight started again immediately. Larry got dropped hard, but even his most ardent haters have to admit he had an amazing ability to recover quickly.
              Rockin' Rockin' likes this.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

                What extra recovery time? The ref gave him and 8 count, did a quick evaluation and than the fight started again immediately. Larry got dropped hard, but even his most ardent haters have to admit he had an amazing ability to recover quickly.
                - - Lar beat the count before lurching headfirst into the ring turnbuckle, the storied 2nd KD without a punch we see throughout the history of boxing that boxing has no coherent ruling on.

                Had that been Ernie KDing the turnbuckle, fight stopped instantly. But boxing ain't ever been fair anymore than you ain't ever been aware.

                See the alltime highlight real of Kostya KD of Judah who jumped up to promptly keel over, jump up again while pointing his glove at Nady who had to dive over to grab him up from lurching out of the ring next untouched KD, all from a single Kostya punch.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                  - - Lar beat the count before lurching headfirst into the ring turnbuckle, the storied 2nd KD without a punch we see throughout the history of boxing that boxing has no coherent ruling on.

                  Had that been Ernie KDing the turnbuckle, fight stopped instantly. But boxing ain't ever been fair anymore than you ain't ever been aware.

                  See the alltime highlight real of Kostya KD of Judah who jumped up to promptly keel over, jump up again while pointing his glove at Nady who had to dive over to grab him up from lurching out of the ring next untouched KD, all from a single Kostya punch.
                  Had Juda had the ring IQ of Tunney he would have stayed down for an eight count, cleared his head. That fight wasn't over by a long shot

                  So often pride makes these fighter jump up when they're not ready. Buster Douglas is another example of the right way to handle a KD.

                  Other big mistakes include Carnera (Max Baer; first KD) and Willard (Jack Dempsey; first KD). Both would have been better served if they had stayed down for the full eight. Both took their worst beatings of the fight after jumping up too quickly after the first KD. Both were able to go for more rounds but were never in the fight again.

                  Patterson - Johansson I --> Patterson jumped up too quickly and subsequently went down six more times.

                  pride before a fall

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - Lar beat the count before lurching headfirst into the ring turnbuckle, the storied 2nd KD without a punch we see throughout the history of boxing that boxing has no coherent ruling on.

                    Had that been Ernie KDing the turnbuckle, fight stopped instantly. But boxing ain't ever been fair anymore than you ain't ever been aware.

                    See the alltime highlight real of Kostya KD of Judah who jumped up to promptly keel over, jump up again while pointing his glove at Nady who had to dive over to grab him up from lurching out of the ring next untouched KD, all from a single Kostya punch.
                    I'm just curious about the extra time you claimed Holmes received? By the 8 count Larry had recovered and was bouncing on his toes ready to go again. That seems like a pretty fair reason for the ref to let the fight continue to me. Do you disagree?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View Post

                      Had Juda had the ring IQ of Tunney he would have stayed down for an eight count, cleared his head. That fight wasn't over by a long shot

                      So often pride makes these fighter jump up when they're not ready. Buster Douglas is another example of the right way to handle a KD.

                      Other big mistakes include Carnera (Max Baer; first KD) and Willard (Jack Dempsey; first KD). Both would have been better served if they had stayed down for the full eight. Both took their worst beatings of the fight after jumping up too quickly after the first KD. Both were able to go for more rounds but were never in the fight again.

                      Patterson - Johansson I --> Patterson jumped up too quickly and subsequently went down six more times.

                      pride before a fall
                      Berbick-Tyson
                      Willie Pep 229 Willie Pep 229 likes this.

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