Was Holyfield on PEDs when he beat Qawi?

[QueensburyRules]

--- TUE 50-0 and BALCO Vic VADA aint cleaning up boxing, they're killing it.

Where you been, in Bolivia?

[uncle ben]

Has boxing gotten better at catching juicing fighters these days? Or does it only happen when they agree to OST, like in Mayweather's later fights? I read the UFC uses something called VADA, which has caught a lot of guys since they implemented it.

Nice screen name, by the way. Are you a fan of Spider-Man or do you just really like rice?

I like Spidey but I named myself after a box of rice

[Anthony342]

I like Spidey but I named myself after a box of rice

Cool. So is boxing catching these guys now, so we might be able to avoid a future Evan Fields incident?

[OctoberRed]

Has boxing gotten better at catching juicing fighters these days? Or does it only happen when they agree to OST, like in Mayweather's later fights? I read the UFC uses something called VADA, which has caught a lot of guys since they implemented it.

Nice screen name, by the way. Are you a fan of Spider-Man or do you just really like rice?

They use USADA, which is far more expensive than VADA.

[Anthony342]

They use USADA, which is far more expensive than VADA.

So I guess then the answer would be yes. I believe GSP wanted to see the UFC use USADA as well.

[billeau2]

Anthony imo is on the right track here...

The real problem with this issue is that it is not as simple as people like to make it. Its not black and white regarding enhancements and even the nature of the enhancements.

When one ages healing takes longer and chronic conditions can be aggravated. Many steroids are simply used to speed up the healing process for an older athlete. that is just good medicine. Victor Comte started out doing very detailed nutritional analysis for athletes and by giving compound preparations he got tremendous results...some of these nutritional catalysts used steriodal preperations, but what makes a steroid so different than other supplements?

It has to do more with something we produce in our bodies that is really the difference...think about that. All these compounds are catalysts, enzimic catalysts mostly, that help us use fat, carbs and proteins...the fact that some of them are produced by our glandular system is what the issue is, but many of these same chemicals occur naturally as well.

Ultimately having a body that is ripped from male steroids does not help a fighter much at all and using chemicals to enhance oxygen efficiency are not primarily steroidal anyway...so why are these looked upon with such contempt? If I go to a doctor and heal quickly that is good medicine, whether it be steroid, or not. Just something to think about.

[QueensburyRules]

--- docs been prescribing steroid for any serious injury or surgery for 40 years now.

That said, when Arnie made his debut on muscle mags that I never read, I thumbed thru and immediately knew he was on steroids as his l'il bro Rocky.

Not even intuitive, but more obvious to a discerning eye to go from A to Z with no prehistory to explain it.

[Zaroku]

Poor que no Las dos
In all seriousness I think he was clean till after the Douglas fight so his win over qwai was legit I think.

I think so too. He beat a mentally broken Tyson.

Buster Douglas got that long count after being knocked down. I still have the original old Nintendo in the box with that Tyson boxing video game.

[billeau2]

I think so too. He beat a mentally broken Tyson.

Buster Douglas got that long count after being knocked down. I still have the original old Nintendo in the box with that Tyson boxing video game.

Hey brother Z! That uppercut was right out of rock em sock em robots!

[Zaroku]

Hey brother Z! That uppercut was right out of rock em sock em robots!

I loved that game as a kid, “you knocked my block off”

Hasboro..or Mattel? Don’t remember now.