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  • #11
    Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
    I think he might, in worst case scenario, become a Mike Tyson.

    Tyson is RICH, but he's nowhere near what he was in his prime.

    The same goes for Holyfield.

    Once Mayweather hits rockbottom, if it ever gets there, he can just as easily go the Tyson or Holyfield route and make a lot of money with speaking tours, appearances, autograph sessions. Licensing his name to items.
    Mayweather does not have the charm. Tyson reinvented himself. Tyson is actually an intelligent thoughtful human being. I don't know about Mayweather I guess time will tell.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
      Mansions are very expensive to maintain (so I hear). One mansion owned by east injuns is stocked with 600 servants. This mansion is a 40 story high rise occupied by a single extended family of one of the richest east injuns.

      As Floyd recently found out, you have to have a caretaker for mansions while you are away. You need grounds keepers and gardeners to keep the value of the real estate up. Car collections are big drains, too. They require top experts to maintain them. We do not think Floyd is personally changing the oil on his car collection. What he is doing is personally paying for it, though.

      Reports make it transparent that Mayweather has probably learned nothing about holding onto money. The 500k a month drain off Billy boy came up with might not be too far amiss.

      In the case of a Mayweather being helped by a much smarter person at something he can barely follow, that must for the advisor become a gigantic temptation. The man sent to help you can so easily help himself from your coffers, that he often probably does.

      I believe anyone with a few decades left in them has a good chance of reading about a broke Mayweather somewhere ahead in the future. Like Red said, he may still be rich. But it will be an ordinary rich rather than a ****** rich.
      It is deceptive how fast wealth can dissopate. In fact, saving is a scam in my opinion... something I have tried to explain to my mother, as Dad just left us for his heavenly abode. Rich people tell others to save, but its not what they do. If your not generating income you are losing income, there is no in between. I know I say this over and over, evangualize it! But I was caught suddenly when my mother in law passed many moons ago with absolutely NO financial knowledge, ziltch, nada, I thought REal Estate was the Spanish name for reality!!! lol. (Burmmm ching!!!)

      In my case I read everything I could in about six months and it all sounded pretty useless until I found a contrarian who changed my perspective. when one "saves" they are taxed to death with inflation. Inflation is the only thing that can compete with the thugs that take taxes off of a man's earned income... If you do not believe me, imagine for a second if you have 10k in a mattress that you have hidden since 1960. What if I gave you one magical day when those dollar were worth what they were worth the day you put them in the mattress to be saved. Even most returns you got if you invested the money would hardly bring you that much value. at 12.50 that 10k would be worth around 120k. What investment would keep you in position to offset that return? Lets not forget the tax man.

      So generate income! Or lose income, no inbetween

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      • #13
        Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
        1 Marciano (quit undefeated)
        2 Tunney (undefeated heavyweight)
        3 Pep (Big Winner)
        4 Wilde (KO King)
        5 Marcel Cerdan (Big Winner)
        6 Dempsey (Life of Riley)
        7 Nicolino Locche (untouchable)
        8 Harry Greb (Human windmill)
        9 Young Stribling (Greatest cruiser)
        10 Maxie Rosenbloom (unhittable)

        The above fighters are probably the greatest ever in their respective divisions. All very smart fighters.
        Smartest in what way?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
          Smartest in what way?
          Oh, just brainy white men. Now Marcel Cerdan, he was a big winner, for instance. They tell me Willie Pep had a chance to teach calculus.

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          • #15
            oh...ok...lol

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            • #16
              Tunney’s interest in literature must have made him one of the smartest.
              The money you earned fighting might disappear, but if you enjoy sharing
              your time with the works of great authors, you’re always a rich man.

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              • #17
                Tunney had the class to attract even had he not been heavyweight champion. Dempsey could hang out with anyone he wanted, but it was because he was a famous champ. Same with Mayweather. He could never attract the top class of people on his own merits without boxing.

                Max Schmeling, now there was a smart man. Loved on both sides of the Atlantic when that was not so easy to accomplish. He was lucky to survive the wrath of Hitler.

                Of course degrees alone cannot guarantee intelligence. Why, the Klitchko brothers are pasty white and have Phd's, but you would be hard pressed to find their brains without a magnifying glass. Before retirement forced them out of the game they were working on the novel idea that you have to hit your opponent to win fights.

                Joey Giardello, maybe not too smart. If his lawsuit was valid enough to win an apology from the producers of Hurricane, then it was probably good enough to win him some jack as well. But no, good ol' Joey just wanted an apology and his tail feathers combed. Perfume the wattle, please.

                Nathan Cleverly has a degree in mathematics. Now that is practically an alternate definition of intelligence. And that ain't sports science or gender studies, either, baby. Any kind of degree in mathematics means you are facing material most people could not handle even if their children's lives depended on it. Come to think of it, they kind of do.

                Bobby Cysz, known to be a genius. Just listen to him and make up your own mind.
                Last edited by The Old LefHook; 12-07-2017, 07:36 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                  Tunney had the class to attract even had he not been heavyweight champion. Dempsey could hang out with anyone he wanted, but it was because he was a famous champ. Same with Mayweather. He could never attract the top class of people on his own merits without boxing.

                  Max Schmeling, now there was a smart man. Loved on both sides of the Atlantic when that was not so easy to accomplish. He was lucky to survive the wrath of Hitler.

                  Of course degrees alone cannot guarantee intelligence. Why, the Klitchko brothers are pasty white and have Phd's, but you would be hard pressed to find their brains without a magnifying glass. Before retirement forced them out of the game they were working on the novel idea that you have to hit your opponent to win fights.

                  Joey Giardello, maybe not too smart. If his lawsuit was valid enough to win an apology from the producers of Hurricane, then it was probably good enough to win him some jack as well. But no, good ol' Joey just wanted an apology and his tail feathers combed. Perfume the wattle, please.

                  Nathan Cleverly has a degree in mathematics. Now that is practically an alternate definition of intelligence. And that ain't sports science or gender studies, either, baby. Any kind of degree in mathematics means you are facing material most people could not handle even if their children's lives depended on it. Come to think of it, they kind of do.

                  Bobby Cysz, known to be a genius. Just listen to him and make up your own mind.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Ben Bolt View Post
                    Tunney’s interest in literature must have made him one of the smartest.
                    The money you earned fighting might disappear, but if you enjoy sharing
                    your time with the works of great authors, you’re always a rich man.
                    Amen!! Tunney was a renaissance man indeed. A man's man. They don't cut from that cloth anymore

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                      Amen!! Tunney was a renaissance man indeed. A man's man. They don't cut from that cloth anymore
                      ^^^^ words to live by right here.

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