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  • Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
    Neither could I. In his early days, he was standoffish and kind of snobbish, then later shown to be an anti-Semite. That's probably why he did out later in life in Iceland. Plus he could be almost as big a prick to negotiate with as Sugar Ray Robinson. The powers that be had no choice but to just give the title to Karpov. Has that happened often in boxing? I know Ken Norton was given the WBC belt at some point, but any others? Daniel Cormier was just given back his light heavy belt after Jon Jones tested positive again in his drug test.
    An anti-semite? Never knew that.

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    • Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
      An anti-semite? Never knew that.
      Yeah, Fischer was slowly cracking for a long time and he finally went totally bat**** insane by the end.

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      • Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
        What's the big deal? This is the best that can be talked about? Mayweather won the exhibition. Most people saw that. Why not STFU about it?

        Mayweather was a cherrypicker. End of story. A cherrypicker's legacy. Almost every great fighter he faced was well on the downhill slide when he finally met them. Fans are already forgetting him, like they did Roy Jones, who is lucky to make it into the top ten Light heavyweights AT these days, even on shows he is co-hosting. What an embarrassment that must be for him. He thought he would do it his way and no one could later deny how great he was. Duh! Sorry, Roy. Now almost a forgotten, desperate character, still fighting, KO'd every other time he steps into the ring, desperate to salvage some legacy out of a career he micro managed himself.

        Already they are not talked about with the same reverence as Robinson. But at least Jones has a highlight reel. Mayweather does not even have that. But Roy has now found that a highlight reel against the seventh or eighth best scrubs in the world at he time will not impress anyone but your sycophants, in the long run.

        As far as opponents and legacies go--get 'em while they are hot. No one cares if you beat someone eight years past their prime, Mayweather. That is what you specialized in, and now no one cares.

        The same may come true for big, dumb Joshua over in England. His promoters want to keep him locked up and out of danger for as long as possible, while they milk the millions from his compliant udder. If these British shrikes do not sign him to face Wilder right away, but instead let the Alabaman obviously fade downwards from his peak, they are on the same road as Jones and Mayweather, and no amount of their transparent blather will later convince anyone of their charge's greatness. Only encounters within the ring against prime opposition can do that, you stupid fools.

        Oh, and here come Dana White now. Gird yourself for more crookedness and self-serving brainless palaver with plenty of F-bombs.
        You honestly believe that Floyd Mayweather does not have a highlight reel?

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        • Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View Post
          Yeah, Fischer was slowly cracking for a long time and he finally went totally bat**** insane by the end.
          You know brilliance manifests in many ways. I don't have a sense of awe regarding the great Chess Players, but I understand that they are in a sense all idiot savantes. To look at the world as a series of possibilities creating more possibilities and to hold all those in your head, it must indeed make one mad. Mad respect for these guys, rough road to follow... seeing the world the way they do.

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          • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
            You know brilliance manifests in many ways. I don't have a sense of awe regarding the great Chess Players, but I understand that they are in a sense all idiot savantes. To look at the world as a series of possibilities creating more possibilities and to hold all those in your head, it must indeed make one mad. Mad respect for these guys, rough road to follow... seeing the world the way they do.
            Floyd fights in his very distinct way...I wanted to see him get dropped & stopped..still do...Castillo beat his pvnk azz..I enjoyed watching that happen to that braggadocious maricon..

            Hablamos despues...

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            • Originally posted by StarshipTrooper View Post
              Yeah, Fischer was slowly cracking for a long time and he finally went totally bat**** insane by the end.
              Yeah, didn't he say something anti-Semitic to Dick Schapp at a press conference? I remember seeing a clip where his son Jeremy, also a reporter, confronted him on it and said something like the negative assessment of him turned out to be true.

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              • Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                You know brilliance manifests in many ways. I don't have a sense of awe regarding the great Chess Players, but I understand that they are in a sense all idiot savantes. To look at the world as a series of possibilities creating more possibilities and to hold all those in your head, it must indeed make one mad. Mad respect for these guys, rough road to follow... seeing the world the way they do.
                The great fighters were like chess players, thinking several moves ahead and prepared for every possible move by the opponent. The difference being a mistake had much more painful consequences.
                Last edited by Anthony342; 11-02-2017, 11:43 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                  The great fighters were like chess players, thinking several moves and head and prepared for every possible move by the opponent. The difference being a mistake had much more painful consequences.
                  lewis was allegedly an excellent Chess Player.

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                  • I think Bobby Fischer came across The Powers That Be at some point during his career and travels. And that's likely where his anti-Semitism and paranoia came from.

                    Jews as a whole aren't bad but there is a specific criminal subset who are. Just like not all Italians are bad but the Cosa Nostra is...not all Mexicans are bad but the drug cartels are, etc.

                    My current research suggests that Sabbatean and Frankist heretic Jews (to whom sinning was holy) might be a good avenue to explore in this area. There appear to be some ties between them and the Rothschilds and hence the world's elite.

                    Anyway...Floyd's resume and accomplishments dwarf those of Rocky Marciano.

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                    • Yes they do, but at least nobody really claims that Marciano didn't fight certain top opponents during his career. While not entirely his fault, he didn't fight Mosley, Cotto or Pacquiao sooner and didn't fight Margarito at all. Because of this, even though Marciano doesn't surpass Mayweather, there are plenty of others that crap in the mouth of his resume.

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