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  • #21
    It's a good list.

    Disagree with some spots such as Trinidad being above aMorales and Barrera and Jofre being #2 but all in all the list is good.

    It's impossible to agree on everything.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Lou Cipher View Post
      Love Duran, but even the Mayweathers will tell you JC Chavez Sr is the best Latino fighter of all time! Roger says the best FIGHTER of all time. He even said he would beat Floyd Jr.
      Whoa -- you sure? You got a link for that??

      I do know that Roger said Chavez had a "mf'n chin." Which of course he sure did. But I never heard him say he'd beat Floyd Junior. Even I don't think that. And I think Floyd is overrated these days by his contemporaries.

      Duran is the greatest Latino fighter. It's a competition for second place as far as I'm concerned, and I have to go with Monzon.

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      • #23
        Roberto Durán
        Julio César Chávez
        Alexis Argüello
        Salvador Sánchez
        Juan Manuel Márquez
        Carlos Monzón
        Wilfred Benítez

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        • #24
          I'd have Chavez a little bit higher, but other than that I think the list is pretty spot on.

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          • #25
            A top Latin list and Kid Gavilan isn't mentioned?

            Greatest from Cuba, from 1943 to 1958 the Keed fought 143 pro bouts NEVER stopped.
            Sugar Ray stated no one hit him harder than the Keed!

            Welter King and one of the greatest draws of all time.

            This man was a promoters dream because he came to fight.
            He boxed beautifully and would bang it out at any time.
            Huge welter in any era and a top ten welter no question.

            Ray

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            • #26
              Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
              I like Sanchez a little higher, perhaps. His career was cut short, so we do not have full information. Still, I might place him in the top 10 AT featherweights, because he had a style that was hard to deal with. Arguello had a complete career, so of course his career was greater. But it may be that Sanchez had the style to take him apart and avoid his big shots. I always felt that he probably would. No guarantees. Arguello had some trouble with angles, though, and Sanchez presented a lot of angles. That is only speculation. Arguello would still go above him on the list because of the full career and more information.

              I believe Duran is the best Latino fighter of AT, if not the best fighter period P4P. Near universally recognized as the best lightweight ever, he never fought at 140, going right to 147. Even ballooned to 147, he arguably makes the top 10 AT at that weight. A tight squeeze, but maybe.

              Duran vs Chavez in their primes is probably the most entertaining mythical matchup possible. Both men have all punches, and throw them constantly. Chavez could rip off triple lefhooks with perfect ease and naturalness, and he is among the best body punchers ever. I believe Duran hits a bit harder, which could be the small difference in the fight.

              Against a straight ahead fighter like Chavez, would Duran appear more clever than generally given credit for, or would he simply relish the opportunity to collide and go to Viking war?
              Duran would box him and mix in some tough stuff on the inside. He wouldn't simply try to out punch Chavez. That would be an epic battle.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                A top Latin list and Kid Gavilan isn't mentioned?

                Greatest from Cuba, from 1943 to 1958 the Keed fought 143 pro bouts NEVER stopped.
                Sugar Ray stated no one hit him harder than the Keed!

                Welter King and one of the greatest draws of all time.

                This man was a promoters dream because he came to fight.
                He boxed beautifully and would bang it out at any time.
                Huge welter in any era and a top ten welter no question.

                Ray
                Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                IMO -

                1. Roberto Duran
                2. Eder Jofre
                3. Carlos Monzon
                4. Carlos Ortiz
                5. Kid Gavilan
                6. Alexis Arguello
                7. Ruben Olivares
                8. Jose Napoles
                9. Julio Cesar Chavez
                10. Juan Manuel Marquez

                11. Salvador Sanchez
                12. Wilfredo Gomez
                13. Kid Chocolate
                14. Wilfred Benitez
                15. Felix Trinidad
                16. Carlos Zarate
                17. Ricardo Lopez
                18. Marco Antonio Barrera
                19. Erik Morales
                20. Panama Al Brown

                Honorable mention: Pascual Perez, Vicente Saldivar, Miguel Canto, Luis Rodriguez, Antonio Cervantes, Eusebio Pedroza, Ismael Laguna, Roman Gonzalez,
                I had him #5.

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                • #28
                  Ray Corso can't count the number of rounds in a fight and now we learn he can't read either

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by chrisJS View Post
                    IMO -

                    1. Roberto Duran
                    2. Eder Jofre
                    3. Carlos Monzon
                    4. Carlos Ortiz
                    5. Kid Gavilan
                    6. Alexis Arguello
                    7. Ruben Olivares
                    8. Jose Napoles
                    9. Julio Cesar Chavez
                    10. Juan Manuel Marquez

                    11. Salvador Sanchez
                    12. Wilfredo Gomez
                    13. Kid Chocolate
                    14. Wilfred Benitez
                    15. Felix Trinidad
                    16. Carlos Zarate
                    17. Ricardo Lopez
                    18. Marco Antonio Barrera
                    19. Erik Morales
                    20. Panama Al Brown

                    Honorable mention: Pascual Perez, Vicente Saldivar, Miguel Canto, Luis Rodriguez, Antonio Cervantes, Eusebio Pedroza, Ismael Laguna, Roman Gonzalez,
                    I would move Sanchez up. He's one of the greatest latino fighters by a landslide.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
                      Duran would box him and mix in some tough stuff on the inside. He wouldn't simply try to out punch Chavez. That would be an epic battle.
                      I see any good version of Duran busting chavez up no matter which way the fight envelopes. You fight Duran, you lose. He doesn't need to box and move against chavez, he's bigger and stronger regardless of starting weight class, he's a more skilled fighter, better athlete and I bet his chin is even better as well. You put chavez in with Marvin Hagler I would be surprised if that went past 1 round.

                      different eras

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