Charles "Sonny" Liston vs. Rocky Marciano

[Southpaw Stinger]

Sonny Liston quit on his stool in the first fight. Not a corner retirement, HE himself wanted to get out of there and not get beat up more.

That maybe so but the injury was legit.

[Heckler]

Sonny Liston quit on his stool in the first fight. Not a corner retirement, HE himself wanted to get out of there and not get beat up more.

Although we don't truely know Sonny's motives i agree. Sonny had a legitimate injury but he was as tough as nails and i doubt he quit as a result of the pain.

[hemichromis]

Although we don't truely know Sonny's motives i agree. Sonny had a legitimate injury but he was as tough as nails and i doubt he quit as a result of the pain.

he quit because he couldn't get to ali, he could hardly touch him!

[BKM-]

If he went out there and got ktfo i would've had respect for him. He didn't go out like a warrior, and lacking that warrior instinct would be a problem when you go up against an animal like Marciano.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

None of those guys had Sonny Liston's punching power. Marciano would be shocked at the force of Liston's punches, for he has never fought someone with that kind of power ever.

I thought I put in that post i wasn't comparing fighters I was just showing the fact Marciano didn't have trouble against taller fighters. Liston would be shocked at Marciano's power because a small fighter rarely out punches a fighter Liston's sized

Sonny Liston is 100x better than Valuev.

Without a doubt, Who was trying to say Liston wasn't, I was saying you sound like the guy defending Valuev just because he's big because your doing it with Liston's size and reach.




REACH MEANS NOTHING ON THE INSIDE WHICH IS WHERE ROCKY MARCIANO WOULD BE DURING THE FIGHT.

[butterfly1964]

I thought I put in that post i wasn't comparing fighters I was just showing the fact Marciano didn't have trouble against taller fighters. Liston would be shocked at Marciano's power because a small fighter rarely out punches a fighter Liston's sized



Without a doubt, Who was trying to say Liston wasn't, I was saying you sound like the guy defending Valuev just because he's big because your doing it with Liston's size and reach.




REACH MEANS NOTHING ON THE INSIDE WHICH IS WHERE ROCKY MARCIANO WOULD BE DURING THE FIGHT.

No, marciano would be trying to get on the inside, but Liston would keep him away just like Foreman did with Frazier.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

No, marciano would be trying to get on the inside, but Liston would keep him away just like Foreman did with Frazier.

Liston's not Foreman and Marciano's not Frazier. I could see Liston getting head strong and try to go up to Marciano leading with the jab. Thats when Marciano would slip inside and

[BKM-]

No, marciano would be trying to get on the inside, but Liston would keep him away just like Foreman did with Frazier.

Although, what did help Foreman a lot was his freakish strenght. The way he pushed Frazier back allowed him to set up..wel anything. I dont think Liston would have been able to push marciano back like that. Now way. Liston didn't even do that to some other strong fighters who were under 200.

[Brassangel]

Liston wasn't exactly notorious for using his jab to keep an opponent away from himself. Usually it was used as a blinder to get inside and pound. Inside is Rocky's game in almost any contest. Liston would score points, move in, and Rocky would fire back. I guarantee Rocky would earn Sonny's respect. The tale of the tape doesn't always determine the outcome. The bigger the challenge for Marciano, the more he stepped up his game.

[Heckler]

Liston's not Foreman and Marciano's not Frazier. I could see Liston getting head strong and try to go up to Marciano leading with the jab. Thats when Marciano would slip inside and

Marciano didn't exactly have great defensive skills, he wadded in from a low crouch with relatively little headmovement and i believe Sonny Liston could take advantage of this. Rocky didn't have the same handspeed, accuracy, and explosivenesss of Joe Frazier that could nullify Sonnys offense. The odds are stacked against Marciano here, but i don't like voting against him... Rocky has true Ko power and a big pair of balls to match.