Charles "Sonny" Liston vs. Rocky Marciano

[K-DOGG]

Liston could match wits for sure. Here's another:

Clay: You must fall in six!

Liston: By the sixth I expect to be back in my hotel watching the rerun of the fight.

LOL!!!!

[RockyMarcianofan00]

I see Marciano KO'ing Liston
I don't see the ref stopping it on cuts, Marciano had some pretty brutal cuts in other fights ref never stopped it. 3 fights would be awesome..

[Brassangel]

Sonny Liston not only missed loaded up jabs, but he also threw a lot of hooks that almost wrapped around himself because Clay moved away from the punches. He clearly wanted to end the fight early, and it cost him his shoulder. There was a little psychology involved; Liston did tell his corner after the 6th, "I'm not going back out there...you can chase him around if you want to." This might be a sign of heart as opposed to a quitter's mentality I guess. He kept trying to hit Clay even after his shoulder became separated. Now I just don't know what to think about him.

Liston was witty, he was just completely overshadowed by the much louder and far more flambouyant Clay. I almost enjoyed Liston's comments better.

[realheavyhands]

marciano wouldnt even fight floyd patterson at 33 and look what liston did to him

[RockyMarcianofan00]

marciano wouldnt even fight floyd patterson at 33 and look what liston did to him

Oh come on

Marciano's not the one who avoided Patterson, Patterson said he wanted to fight LHW for a few more years. As soon as Marciano retired Patterson fought for the title.

Also Marciano didn't retire to avoid fights, he had a back injury, manager problem, and there weren't any contenders left.

Rocky had a professional record of 49-0 with forty-three knockouts. Some say that he was 50-0 (with forty-four knockouts), but that bout can not be proven as a professional, yet. He was originally scheduled to fight Nino Valdez in his last fight on January 2, 1956 (or at a later date in Cuba, June 1956), but that fight, originally planned for Orlando, Florida, never took place. Other possible contenders near the end of Marciano's career were Tommy Hurricane Jackson, Bob Baker and Floyd Patterson; however, Patterson was not yet ready to take on Marciano and wanted to fight for light-heavyweight championship first for about one to two more years.

Read up on it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Marciano

Rocky Marciano avoided no fight.

[Parody]

Rocky Marciano vs Sonny Liston

Tale of the tape:


Marciano:

Reach: 67
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5' 11
Weight: 185 lbs

Liston:

Reach: 84
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 6'1
Weight: 217


My thoughts:

Styles make fights and Liston is a bad opponent for Marciano, I personally cant see this fight going past the 6th or 7th, you guys have to remember Rocky Marciano was always matched with opponents similar to his size, there was no cruiserweight division at that time so he could have fought at Heavyweight just weighing 180 pounds, Liston on the other hand was much heavy, bulky, stronger..did you guys know that Sonny Liston had the biggest hands in Heavyweight history...I mean the guy had 15 inch fists and an 84 inch reach and he was known for the best reach in history of Heavyweights,...He had a reach that measured between 82-84 inches. On top of that he was thought to have the strongest jab in heavyweight history...I mean Sonny punched so hard in the ring that he frequently knocked opponents through the ropes.

This would be a nightmare for Marciano, who faced guys evenly his size, In my opinion it would be a mis-match

[butterfly1964]

I don't think Liston was that much of a quitter. He once fought a fight with a broken jaw against Marty Marshall and didn't quit. He was floored once early in his career and he got back up off the canvas to knock the guy out. So I think Liston's heart is blown out of proportion.

[butterfly1964]

Tale of the tape:


Marciano:

Reach: 67
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 5' 11
Weight: 185 lbs

Liston:

Reach: 84
Stance: Orthodox
Height: 6'1
Weight: 217


My thoughts:

Styles make fights and Liston is a bad opponent for Marciano, I personally cant see this fight going past the 6th or 7th, you guys have to remember Rocky Marciano was always matched with opponents similar to his size, there was no cruiserweight division at that time so he could have fought at Heavyweight just weighing 180 pounds, Liston on the other hand was much heavy, bulky, stronger..did you guys know that Sonny Liston had the biggest hands in Heavyweight history...I mean the guy had 15 inch fists and an 84 inch reach and he was known for the best reach in history of Heavyweights,...He had a reach that measured between 82-84 inches. On top of that he was thought to have the strongest jab in heavyweight history...I mean Sonny punched so hard in the ring that he frequently knocked opponents through the ropes.

This would be a nightmare for Marciano, who faced guys evenly his size, In my opinion it would be a mis-match

THANK YOU!

They don't seem to get it. Marciano has a 67" reach and is slow as molasses. He couldn't frequently get under Liston's 84" reach, and Liston's handspeed IMO is pretty damn good, watch the Cleveland Williams fight. Very good post. I thought I was alone in this one, at least now I got someone to agree to the exact same thing I have been saying for the past six months. good k for you.

[butterfly1964]

THANK YOU!

They don't seem to get it. Marciano has a 67" reach and is slow as molasses. He couldn't frequently get under Liston's 84" reach, and Liston's handspeed IMO is pretty damn good, watch the Cleveland Williams fight. Very good post. I thought I was alone in this one, at least now I got someone to agree to the exact same thing I have been saying for the past six months. good k for you.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Parody again.

Sorry.

[Parody]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Parody again.

Sorry.

Np man. I'm just going with the facts man, Liston was a wrecking machine.