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If Marciano trained so hard, then how come he wasn't over-trained for any fights?

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  • #51
    Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
    Yeah and look at them in the ring with Marciano. You can plainly see how they were dwarfed by him. LOL.

    https://render.fineartamerica.com/im...&orientation=0


    https://images.fineartamerica.com/im...l-hagerman.jpg
    Yeah. He was smaller than most his opponents. And most were at their peak. People just desperate to discredit him make these sloppy mistakes.

    These people will also claim things like Charles and Walcott are better than guys like Schmeling.

    A lot of idiots try to over glorify certain fighters. Ezzard Charles fans are to Boxing what KISS fans are to Rock N'Roll

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
      Yeah. He was smaller than most his opponents. And most were at their peak. People just desperate to discredit him make these sloppy mistakes.

      These people will also claim things like Charles and Walcott are better than guys like Schmeling.

      A lot of idiots try to over glorify certain fighters. Ezzard Charles fans are to Boxing what KISS fans are to Rock N'Roll
      There is a thread here about an interview with Manny Steward. He talks about Marciano. Interesting.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
        Yeah, my oldest brother was a phenomenal athlete. He kinda fu.cked up in college, and decided to enlist in the Army. Probably to piss off my parents. He was by far the most talented and promising of all of us both intellectually and physically. Actually a nice guy, but always a little crazy.

        He spent his career jumping out of planes and sh.it like that. My older sister saw him a few years ago, and he can barely walk. It's sad. As much as sitting on a beach all day in Hawai'i can be sad.

        I know when I had to lose weight, I had to do all my exercise in the pool or on a bike. Most of it was diet. I used to run for miles, and not really consider it working out. Now, I see these little puzzies my age and older running around who never played sports past high school (if at all) and I realize the nerds were the ones who had it right.
        I know right? I used to think the same way. It was not working out unless it made you hurt! Me and my old man would do these walks in New YorK City, it would be the weekend and I might say "I wonder where the original baseball field was in Hoboken? and off we went! (it does not exist anymore)...Our longest was about 30 miles.

        I walk my dogs, workout some and train, including my son, but its embarassing lol.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
          Yeah. He was smaller than most his opponents. And most were at their peak. People just desperate to discredit him make these sloppy mistakes.

          These people will also claim things like Charles and Walcott are better than guys like Schmeling.

          A lot of idiots try to over glorify certain fighters. Ezzard Charles fans are to Boxing what KISS fans are to Rock N'Roll
          KISS was great for rock n roll; innovated new visual presentations; until computers took over its "Spider" (light show) set the standard for rock shows. By the mid 70s everyone found themselves playing catch-up, even Pink Floyd and Yes.

          Their music was background support for their stage presentation.

          Jimmy Buffet warned guys like you about having an opinion about a "kiss Concert" you never saw -- ya never heard the song?

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          • #55
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
            - -U could remind us with some juicy pics of U in U tighties.

            Preferably rolling around with U tighties peers.
            Are you more lucid just after Gerital time? Inquiring minds want to know.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
              Are you more lucid just after Gerital time? Inquiring minds want to know.
              - -U been rolling around with tighties boy again? Got the video?

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              • #57
                “Overtrained” are we meaning that to be physically pushed too hard and too long that eventually ur breaking ur body down instead of being able to build it up? Hopefully a trainer can see that ur performance is getting worse instead of getting better. But maybe not so obvious day to day, and laying off the training can be hard to wrap ur head around. Course there’s tons of factors in a fight and overtraining is a convenient excuse that sounds good. Still there’s no proof that someone would have done better say if they fought a month earlier. I say a month because even if someone claims to have “overtrained” it’s not common for trainers to push their fighters as hard the last couple weeks. Having to run, sweat, and crash diet to struggle to make weight at the last minute may destroy ur body but I wouldn’t call that “overtraining” just struggling to “make weight”. If u overstrained making weight should at least be easy.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                  - -U been rolling around with tighties boy again? Got the video?
                  You beat me last time...I slipped on all the empty Gerital bottles. I want a rematch! And this time? you have to clean your diaper out...Stip stealing tricks from Toney two ton! who used to douse himself in Tuna Oil before a fight!

                  U Lucid?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                    LOL. You're good for entertainment. I'll give you that. Naive and unathletic, but funny.


                    Dude. We all get fat. I was close to 300 pounds a couple years ago. When my eldest daughter said "Dad, no one wants to see you eat". I had my wake up call. I was almost literally twice my wrestling weight in College.

                    My brother is a Doctor and he's fat. He looked like Dylan McDermott for years. You've seen his face in the dictionary next to "Lady's Man", but after stealing and with stressful careers guys get fat.

                    The dudes on your high school Wrestling team... the guys who looked like Adonis... look them up now. See what they look like. Their knees are ****ed. None of them has a healthy back. They all have eating disorders. But they all know it was worth it.

                    Marciano put on weight because he fooking earned it.
                    Lmao everything I say strikes an insecure chord in your under-developed mind. You talk about me being naive and unathletic then proceed to talk about how you were close to 300 lbs at one point, I bet furiously typing behind your keyboard and adjusting your glasses every 30 seconds! And if you were almost twice your wrestling weight in college then that means you were obese, not just a big guy who filled out.

                    And for the record I wasn't knocking Rocky for gaining weight, I was bringing to light he had a physique of someone who was doing an immense amount of cardio.
                    Last edited by them_apples; 04-17-2020, 01:44 PM.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                      Lmao everything I say strikes an insecure chord in your under-developed mind. You talk about me being naive and unathletic then proceed to talk about how you were close to 300 lbs at one point, I bet furiously typing behind your keyboard and adjusting your glasses every 30 seconds! And if you were almost twice your wrestling weight in college then that means you were obese, not just a big guy who filled out.

                      And for the record I wasn't knocking Rocky for gaining weight, I was bringing to light he had a physique of someone who was doing an immense amount of cardio.
                      You're an epic size queen.

                      I threw that bit in there about my added weight to get you titillated. Obviously, it worked.

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