Boxing record least likely to ever be broken....?

[soul_survivor]

Joe Louis HW title defense streak?
Ali winning the HW title 3 times.
Hopkins oldest to win a major title?
Armstrong featherweight,lightweight,welterweight champ?
Chavez 89-0?
Willie Pep's 200+ wins?

Does no one else have 200+ wins?

If not then there's noway someone will do it now.

Also, no one is going 80 odd fights unbeaten.

[boxinghead530]

Floyd MAYweather making 280 million in one night...

A fight doing 4.4 million U.S. PPv buys

A fight generating over half a billion in revenue...


No fight will ever come close to floyd/manny.. If it does, probably won't be a boxing fight but an mma fight

Thats a who give a **** record.

[soul_survivor]

Thats a who give a **** record.

lol true

[Anthony342]

Does no one else have 200+ wins?

If not then there's noway someone will do it now.

Also, no one is going 80 odd fights unbeaten.

True dat. Not sure about the 200 wins, but I know Chavez Sr. was the last to have 100 wins in boxing.

It's not even common in MMA anymore, which has a short history. Dan Severn is the only significant fighter in the sport to have at least 100 wins, with 101. I read he plans to come back. At 58, I don't really see the point.

There's also a guy named Travis Fulton with 253 wins, but not against anyone of note, so he's kind of the fighter equivalent of what other sports call a compiler, a guy that sticks around long enough to compile huge stats and make the all time top 5 lists of certain records, but doesn't usually get it done in the clutch, when it matters most, like A Rod's baseball career until 2009. Or a Vinny Testaverde in football.

Hell, these days 50 wins is considered the major milestone. If Mia St. John fights again, she'll probably get a 50th win.

[soul_survivor]

True dat. Not sure about the 200 wins, but I know Chavez Sr. was the last to have 100 wins in boxing.

It's not even common in MMA anymore, which has a short history. Dan Severn is the only significant fighter in the sport to have at least 100 wins, with 101. I read he plans to come back. At 58, I don't really see the point.

There's also a guy named Travis Fulton with 253 wins, but not against anyone of note, so he's kind of the fighter equivalent of what other sports call a compiler, a guy that sticks around long enough to compile huge stats and make the all time top 5 lists of certain records, but doesn't usually get it done in the clutch, when it matters most, like A Rod's baseball career until 2009. Or a Vinny Testaverde in football.

Hell, these days 50 wins is considered the major milestone. If Mia St. John fights again, she'll probably get a 50th win.

Even Savern, realistically, wouldn't match the MMA kings of today for quality. I don't think MMA has much of a history of long, hard careers with many many fights mainly because it's a relatively new discipline as a global sport.

And yes, if any of the guys we consider as world class in this current decade, even gets 50 wins it'd be quite amazing. Alvarez will hit that point next year but in reality he's barely 10 truly world class fights. Obviously I'm not including May or Pac when it comes to "this decade".

Guys like Thurman, Porter, Crawford and co all have taken way too long to get to the world level to even rack up 40 wins without doing so laboriously, with the way these guys now fight once a year.

I feel most of boxing's numerical records will stand forever now. Chavez Sr, Pep, Robinson, Duran type numbers will never be seen again.

[Anthony342]

Me too man. Commentators were even saying so when Chavez was approaching his 100th win.

And if you can throw someone to the ground, it takes a way a lot of the opponent's advantages. Matt Hughes and Khabib Nurmagomedov have been able to do that with their wrestling as well.

[The Old LefHook]

The more wins an MMA fighter compiles, the smaller his ears get.

[Anthony342]

Good point, especially Travis Fulton. Randy Couture has had the worst case of cauliflower ear I've seen so far though. How do wrestlers even get them when they were protective gear over their ears?

[i got the keys]

Even Savern, realistically, wouldn't match the MMA kings of today for quality. I don't think MMA has much of a history of long, hard careers with many many fights mainly because it's a relatively new discipline as a global sport.

And yes, if any of the guys we consider as world class in this current decade, even gets 50 wins it'd be quite amazing. Alvarez will hit that point next year but in reality he's barely 10 truly world class fights. Obviously I'm not including May or Pac when it comes to "this decade".

Guys like Thurman, Porter, Crawford and co all have taken way too long to get to the world level to even rack up 40 wins without doing so laboriously, with the way these guys now fight once a year.

I feel most of boxing's numerical records will stand forever now. Chavez Sr, Pep, Robinson, Duran type numbers will never be seen again.

Dan Severn is an ELITE wrestler. If he was in his prime today I have no doubt he would be able to match up with many of the top HWs. He'd have a similar style to Lesner, primarily ground and pound.

[i got the keys]

Lmao...

Why do you keep dodging my questions?

Why does UFC get paid hundreds of millions to be on network TV and boxing has to spend hundreds of millions to be on same networks?

What year did boxing sell 10 mil PPv buys?

What year did boxing have 3 seperate million PPv buy cards in the same yeR, let alone the 5 that ufc has this year?


Keep being in denial... This isn't an agenda this is facts

The funding isn't coming straight out of Haymon's pocket. The reason that boxing pays to be on those networks is because Al Haymon has sponsers who've provided money for the purpose of getting boxing on network tv. Millions!!! It's essentially the reverse of what the UFC does. The UFC joined with a network and accepted a deal to have their fights shown on those networks. They basically had to choose from whatever networks would accept their pitch and take the money that the network offered. In the Haymon's case with PBC, he came with the money and chose the networks he wanted to work with and paid them based on whatever the worth was agreed upon.