Strongest fighter ever lived

[Kid Achilles]

The average person is much weaker nowadays and continues to grow weaker with each passing generation as we grow less and less dependant on our bodies to survive and more on technology. Weightlifting does not compensate for a sedentary, soft lifestyle. Take your local ox from the gym who benches 400 pounds and put him on a construction site pouring foundations, or in a mine, and he will be lucky to last the day at a moderate pace.

People want easy fixes and weight lifting seems to provide that. Work hard for an hour or so a few times a week and you're good. You will get strong in certain movement and you will get much bigger. It sounds great, but it's no substitute for hours of hard work a day. That's the way you build an iron constitution.

The old timers were very active, running many miles in the early morning in addition to hitting the bag, sparring, doing calisthenics, and even wrestling. They were physical men who spend the majority of the day in motion. Today's top fighter trains maybe 3-4 hours a day and then plays video games or goes out clubbing. Physical he looks great because of the superior knowledge we have of diet and training to reduce bodyfat and look good but, relatively speaking, he is much lazier than the workhorses of a hundred years ago, and his stamina is worse.

[K-DOGG]

The average person is much weaker nowadays and continues to grow weaker with each passing generation as we grow less and less dependant on our bodies to survive and more on technology. Weightlifting does not compensate for a sedentary, soft lifestyle. Take your local ox from the gym who benches 400 pounds and put him on a construction site pouring foundations, or in a mine, and he will be lucky to last the day at a moderate pace.

People want easy fixes and weight lifting seems to provide that. Work hard for an hour or so a few times a week and you're good. You will get strong in certain movement and you will get much bigger. It sounds great, but it's no substitute for hours of hard work a day. That's the way you build an iron constitution.

The old timers were very active, running many miles in the early morning in addition to hitting the bag, sparring, doing calisthenics, and even wrestling. They were physical men who spend the majority of the day in motion. Today's top fighter trains maybe 3-4 hours a day and then plays video games or goes out clubbing. Physical he looks great because of the superior knowledge we have of diet and training to reduce bodyfat and look good but, relatively speaking, he is much lazier than the workhorses of a hundred years ago, and his stamina is worse.

Kid....nobody could have said it better than you just did. Props and karma.

[Past m' Prime]

I have to agree with the KID, pumping video games is not the same as a lifetime of hard work. If you look at the old time greats they all had damn tough jobs prior to fighting. Primo Carnera was huge and a circus strongman before he became a fighter so I assume he was better than average. As for punching power, either Marciano or George Foreman. Personally I don't think Foreman hit more than one guy flush, and its probably a good thing.

[Verstyle]

His last fight was at 216 before prison, when he came out he was 220 and looked a lot bulkier than the lean muscle he naturally had. I'm sure everyone agrees.

u sure about 220? cause i heard he was hitting close to 300 when he got outta prison cause he couldnt maintain a proper diet

[Verstyle]

yea

before prison



after prison (this later though because as you can see he is muscular here)

man oh man. i thought u were smarter then that. obviously ppl know when tyson came back from prison he didnt nearly fight as much as he used to in the 80s,he started reducing his fights to one a year. which means he doesnt have to be in the gym as much as he used to especially when he was with rooney. so what im tryin to say is i guess when the later years progressed he had to stay in the gym alot to have the physical features he had int he 80s. plus when ever he did fight most of the time u saw he was in shape. oh yeah plsu tyson is ****in flexin in that picture while delivering a shot. and the second pic tyson jus has a gut

[Kid Achilles]

No Tyson definitely got smaller in prison. It was sometime after he got out of prison and in between fights that he began to blow up to almost 300 pounds, but if I recall that was due to some medication he was taking at the time.

[Heckler]

Foreman, jeffries was up there. Ali was definately strong, people assume that because he couldn't hit particulary hard for a Heavyweight he was weak... he definately was not shown by his ability to tie Liston up at will and his ability to smother and stop Foreman in his tracks on various ocassions in 74' Without a doubt Foreman was the stronger man. There is a difference between functional strength and the strength often developed by those who lift weights. Im sure Tyson could bench more then Holyfield or Ali but i don't consider him the stronger man at all.

[Pugnacious_Z]

all you guys talk as if bodybuilders are weak or something. have you guys ever wresteled with a guy who lifted alot of weights? i have and let me tell you they are ****ing strong, very strong grip and push you around easily, its very functional strength

[Kid Achilles]

When I was in highschool I was playing around with this kid outside in gym class, who was about ten pounds heavier than me and bench pressing much more than I was putting up at the time (I think I could bench 190 and he was doing something in the 280 range) and I was pushing him back without much trouble. He could kill me in arm wrestling but in terms of full body strength I had no problem with him.

I wasn't even a bit weight nut, I just benched and did work on our little farm, carrying hay bales upspairs into the loft in the barn, shoveling ****, pushing a heavy overloaded wheelbarrow up hill in snow and mud to dump it etc.

[BKM-]

Tyson had small calves compared to his huge legs. He was not the strongest fighter.

But bodybuilders are a lot stronger than any strong guy who works a lot. Back in the day i couldn't do that many push ups, but when i started weight lifting i could do a lot of push ups with ease. Fighters who start weight lifting are definitely gonna get stronger.