Strongest fighter ever lived

[Yogi]

That's the quote I was looking for, and it says it all. Thanks Yogi. Jeffries was born in the wrong time as I think MMA really would have suited him even better than boxing. Though it's also quite likely Jeffries would still choose boxing today as it's where the big money is.

I have an excellant & very detailed article on Farmer Burns that was published in the May 2000 issue of 'Grappling', and while browsing it I was hoping to find some info on Jeffries in it. But not much beyond the mention of Burns training with him on occasion, and then the article immediately goes into describing a sreet fight that was said to have taken place between Burns and the former middleweight champion, Billy Papke.

[Kid Achilles]

But not much beyond the mention of Burns training with him on occasion, and then the article immediately goes into describing a sreet fight that was said to have taken place between Burns and the former middleweight champion, Billy Papke.

How was that one said to have ended?

[Yogi]

How was that one said to have ended?

From that article;

"While in training camp in Reno, Nevada, Burns got into a heated debate with another trainer, who just happened to be Billy Papke, a former middleweight champion. Burns, in his 50's, was much older than Papke, but the Farmer decided that the two should settle their argument in an all-out street fight. Papke took a few swings, then Burns took him down and submitted him, making him cry 'Uncle'."

I've also spoke to someone else about this in the past and tried to get a different version of what happened (seeing as this was a Burns article and you know...I thought that it may have been bias in his favour), and the final result of what happened seems to have been consistent with what he read from a few other sources (the fight was said to have lasted only about 15 to 20 seconds). The hold that submitted Papke on that occasion has been written as either a ankle lock or some kind of heel hook...some type of foot lock, anyways.

[butterfly1964]

From that article;

"While in training camp in Reno, Nevada, Burns got into a heated debate with another trainer, who just happened to be Billy Papke, a former middleweight champion. Burns, in his 50's, was much older than Papke, but the Farmer decided that the two should settle their argument in an all-out street fight. Papke took a few swings, then Burns took him down and submitted him, making him cry 'Uncle'."

I've also spoke to someone else about this in the past and tried to get a different version of what happened (seeing as this was a Burns article and you know...I thought that it may have been bias in his favour), and the final result of what happened seems to have been consistent with what he read from a few other sources (the fight was said to have lasted only about 15 to 20 seconds). The hold that submitted Papke on that occasion has been written as either a ankle lock or some kind of heel hook...some type of foot lock, anyways.

hmmm, interesting.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...1&page=4&pp=10

[Yogi]

hmmm, interesting.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...1&page=4&pp=10

Why are you giving me that link?

[butterfly1964]

Why are you giving me that link?

just click on it.

[Yogi]

just click on it.

I did already...What?

[RockyMarcianofan00]

after prison, tyson's look was much different than pre prison. when he was in his prime, he was muscular, but he didn't have the body builder look that he had post prison.

yea

before prison



after prison (this later though because as you can see he is muscular here)

[SquareCircle]

Tye Fields is stronger than Foreman

but his boxing technique is ugly because of all those years pumping iron

[butterfly1964]

ali is pretty damn strong. he even managed to outmuscle foreman at times so you know he has strength.