Rocky Marciano VS Wladimir Klitschko.

[Ivich]

- - Jeff 22 when he went 20 rounds vs Choynski, age 29, and Jeff scored the only Knockdown.

JJ 22 when he went up against 32 yr old Choynski who had been knocked out twice that year, and JJ couldn't last 3 rounds.

What B U next spaghetti legs equivocations?

Ever order sushi in France?

Jeffries outweighed Choynski by 62lbs! Johnson as Pollack estimates was roughly the same size as Choynski when they met ie super middleweight.

Spot the difference?

Going back to Paris with friends in March for my Wife's birthday going to dine at;
La Coupole my favourite restaurant.

Cafe de Flore

Les Duexs Magots

Les Fouquet

It will probably be our farewell to the city ,so we are pushing the boat out a bit.

Don't worry I will send you full details of our meals ,I know you wouldn't want to miss anything! lol.

Never eaten sushi , not even inThailand ,where it is very popular.

[Dr. Z]

Jeffries outweighed Choynski by 62lbs! Johnson as Pollack estimates was roughly the same size as Choynski when they met ie super middleweight.

Spot the difference?

Going back to Paris with friends in March for my Wife's birthday going to dine at;
La Coupole my favourite restaurant.

Cafe de Flore

Les Duexs Magots

Les Fouquet

It will probably be our farewell to the city ,so we are pushing the boat out a bit.

Don't worry I will send you full details of our meals ,I know you wouldn't want to miss anything! lol.

Never eaten sushi , not even inThailand ,where it is very popular.

Choynski knocked Johnson out cold in 1901! Jeffries was green when he fought Chosynki.

Why don't you mention that Johnson lost to the same man, lost to a past his prime and 180 pound Griffin, lost to 175-180 pound Hart ( weights for 1902-1904, they fought in 1905 ) had a news draw with O'brein who was 162.5 pounds ( may felt O'brein was the better ) and floored by middle weight with Ketchel to the point where he got up in the same round and won he was dazed according to the New York times? I should post this every time your say what you do. In fact I may. I'll make you stop saying it, or expose your further.

Instead of staying so-and so fought small men ( Corbett, Jeffries, Marciano ) , you should say Johnson was beaten and embarrassed by smaller men. And the hate continues to lineal champions when the weights go up the scale to the Kiltschko's. Gee I wonder what they have in common besides not being French.

Fact is your a lair and omit many facts to make your points against white heavyweights.

Reply directly to my points for a change.

[Ivich]

choynski knocked johnson out cold in 1901! Jeffries was green when he fought chosynki.

why don't you mention that johnson lost to the same man, lost to a past his prime and 180 pound griffin, lost to 175-180 pound hart ( weights for 1902-1904, they fought in 1905 ) had a news draw with o'brein who was 162.5 pounds ( may felt o'brein was the better ) and floored by middle weight with ketchel to the point where he got up in the same round and won he was dazed according to the new york times? I should post this every time your say what you do. In fact i may. I'll make you stop saying it, or expose your further.

instead of staying so-and so fought small men ( corbett, jeffries, marciano ) , you should say johnson was beaten and embarrassed by smaller men. And the hate continues to lineal champions when the weights go up the scale to the kiltschko's. Gee i wonder what they have in common besides not being french.

fact is your a lair and omit many facts to make your points against white heavyweights.

reply directly to my points for a change.

Have the decency and manners to take this to another thread ,it doesnt belong here

[QueensburyRules]

Jeffries outweighed Choynski by 62lbs! Johnson as Pollack estimates was roughly the same size as Choynski when they met ie super middleweight.

Spot the difference?

- - Yeah, they was both 22 and Choynski much fresher vs Jeff and both fighting in the open division.

And Rocky gonna be Rocky no matter how many monkeymans come along like Jack lost to Jeff's leftovers.

Some things never change.

[Dr. Z]

Have the decency and manners to take this to another thread ,it doesnt belong here

You mentioned Jeffries and Choysnki so I recalled here. Again care to reply to it?!

choynski knocked johnson out cold in 1901! Jeffries was green when he fought chosynki.

why don't you mention that johnson lost to the same man, lost to a past his prime and 180 pound griffin, lost to 175-180 pound hart ( weights for 1902-1904, they fought in 1905 ) had a news draw with o'brein who was 162.5 pounds ( may felt o'brein was the better ) and floored by middle weight with ketchel to the point where he got up in the same round and won he was dazed according to the new york times? I should post this every time your say what you do. In fact i may. I'll make you stop saying it, or expose your further.

instead of staying so-and so fought small men ( corbett, jeffries, marciano ) , you should say johnson was beaten and embarrassed by smaller men. And the hate continues to lineal champions when the weights go up the scale to the kiltschko's. Gee i wonder what they have in common besides not being french.

fact is your a lair and omit many facts to make your points against white heavyweights.

reply directly to my points for a change.

And you bring up manners and decency? You have exhibited none! But do reply directly to what is quoted.

[Dr. Z]

You mentioned Jeffries and Choysnki so I recalled here. Again care to reply to it?!



And you bring up manners and decency? You have exhibited none! But do reply directly to what is quoted.

Ivich, I see your tired to make up a thread with lies about me as your topic and its was locked by the administrators. No doubt you read this and choose not the reply.

Choynski knocked Johnson out cold in 1901! Jeffries was green when he fought Chosynki.

why don't you mention that johnson lost to the same man, lost to a past his prime and 180 pound griffin, lost to 175-180 pound hart ( weights for 1902-1904, they fought in 1905 ) had a news draw with o'brein who was 162.5 pounds ( may felt o'brein was the better ) and floored by middle weight with ketchel to the point where he got up in the same round and won he was dazed according to the new york times? I should post this every time your say what you do. In fact i may. I'll make you stop saying it, or expose your further.

instead of staying so-and so fought small men ( corbett, jeffries, marciano ) , you should say johnson was beaten and embarrassed by smaller men. And the hate continues to lineal champions when the weights go up the scale to the kiltschko's. Gee i wonder what they have in common besides not being french.

fact is your a lair and omit many facts to make your points against white heavyweights.

reply directly to my points for a change.

[them_apples]

I am a non-biased, well educated and a very informed ex-boxer who has known dozens of great fighters, several hundred "champions" who have won "title belts" and literally thousands of fighters and people who have dedicated there lives to boxing and teaching boxing, who have made their livings in the boxing business I have seen Wlad fight with my own eyes. Nostalgia or Nationalistic loyalty's aside, I can assure you that if Lamont Brewster, Cory Sanders and Ross Pruitty would KO Wlad, there is no scenario within the realm of reason where Wlad could go the distance with Marciano. As small as Rock was, and with a 68 inch reach weighing 180 lbs against Wlad's 81 inch reach (with the jab Emanual taught him) and weighing 230 there is no doubt in my mind that Marciano would have KOed Wlad with relative ease.

Wlad's chin is his Achilles heel, and Rock was one of history's great KO punchers, if you can say with a straight face that Brewster, Sanders or Pruitty were better than Marciano, you sir are the one deluded. "Greatness" transcends mere title's or even "championships', it is an element of personality that causes Joe Frazier to get up 6 times against Foreman or Ali fight 12 rounds with a broken jaw. Marciano showed it by answering the next bell with one of the worse cuts in boxing history against Charles and KOing Charles with his nose split down the middle. Wlad got up against Samuel Peters, so he showed heart, but lets face it, his chin was the reason he was down in the first place.

Marciaon by KO in 6

excellent post from the past. You clearly are an ex boxer to understand the 186 lbs means very little in this matchup when up against all the other factors.

Because most of the posters in this forum donā€™t actually know Marciano - to them he is just a small white guy who would get pushed around and embarassed by anyone decent.

to them he is just a liam smith, but had they understood who he was, then they would understand the reason Marciano beats so many champs up. Marciano was a cold mfker. In every fight you could expect Marciano to show up and relentlessly pursue victory.

lastly was his skills and power, heā€™s crafty and awkward and yes with bone crunching power. Men of equivalent weights in lower weight classes can show a drastic difference in punching power between eachother (thomas Hearns vs malignaggi) yet people donā€™t seem to think 186 lb Marciano could hurt someone over 200 lbs!

[QueensburyRules]

excellent post from the past. You clearly are an ex boxer to understand the 186 lbs means very little in this matchup when up against all the other factors.

Because most of the posters in this forum donāt actually know Marciano - to them he is just a small white guy who would get pushed around and embarassed by anyone decent.

to them he is just a liam smith, but had they understood who he was, then they would understand the reason Marciano beats so many champs up. Marciano was a cold mfker. In every fight you could expect Marciano to show up and relentlessly pursue victory.

lastly was his skills and power, heās crafty and awkward and yes with bone crunching power. Men of equivalent weights in lower weight classes can show a drastic difference in punching power between eachother (thomas Hearns vs malignaggi) yet people donāt seem to think 186 lb Marciano could hurt someone over 200 lbs!

- - Poor guy prob dead or in a nursing home looking for Leffy's teef to replace his own.

Liam Smith a decent contender @154-160 was never confused with Rocky, but apparently U did.

And???

[QueensburyRules]

Yes. If Rocky fans saw him go face to face with Klitschko during ref's instructions before the bell, they would get a sick feeling about what they were going to see.

- - Yup, me ol' buddy Scott sez it best of what happens to most of the muffins who post here today.

[Ivich]

excellent post from the past. You clearly are an ex boxer to understand the 186 lbs means very little in this matchup when up against all the other factors.

Because most of the posters in this forum donāt actually know Marciano - to them he is just a small white guy who would get pushed around and embarassed by anyone decent.

to them he is just a liam smith, but had they understood who he was, then they would understand the reason Marciano beats so many champs up. Marciano was a cold mfker. In every fight you could expect Marciano to show up and relentlessly pursue victory.

lastly was his skills and power, heās crafty and awkward and yes with bone crunching power. Men of equivalent weights in lower weight classes can show a drastic difference in punching power between eachother (thomas Hearns vs malignaggi) yet people donāt seem to think 186 lb Marciano could hurt someone over 200 lbs!

Marciano could hurt anyone,could he hurt a class 240lbs modern heavyweight enough is the question? Simply put he never faced one.
Rocky was dropped by a 39/41 years old 188lbs man, and a 38 years old 196lbs man, neither of whom would feature in the hardest 20 heavyweight punchers list .

Nobody is convincing me the chances of Wlad,[ who would be on that list.] ,knocking him down are less than probable.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights Wlad has a great jab and a telescopic reach,anyone think Rocky would not be cut in this match up?