Rocky Marciano VS Wladimir Klitschko.
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He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.
In fact he faced few really big punchers.
If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to
conclude Wlad would knock him out.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and
wobbly against journeyman Lowry.
The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .
This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.
This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.
I say he could not do it.
"Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.
Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.
After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.
"I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."
“I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
I never at any time said Marciano lacked one punch power,what I said was he usually wore men down with an accumulation of punches ,that is by definition an attrition puncher ,similar to Frazier.
Marciano laid the ground work for the Layne Ko by targetting his soft belly round after round.
Walcott quit in the rematch.
Jack Johnson was 22 years old when Choynski beat him.
Adam Pollack estimates Johnson was a super middleweight at the time.
O Brien did not weigh in for the Johnson fight, nobody knows what he weighed.
Neither Johnson or Griffin weighed in for their fight which Griffin won and Griffin fought for another 4 years
O Brien stated over a longer distance than the 6 rounds he fought Johnson he would lose.
Film of Johnson koin'g Ktchel shows him casually leaning back on the ropes in no distress what so ever
Just what relevance Jack Johnson has to Marciano is baffling ,
but Dr Zenophobic can always find room for a derogatory post about Johnson.lol
Last edited by Ivich; 10-18-2022, 02:04 PM.Comment
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Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.
He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.
In fact he faced few really big punchers.
If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to
conclude Wlad would knock him out.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and
wobbly against journeyman Lowry.
The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .
This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.
This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.
I say he could not do it.
"Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.
Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.
After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.
"I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."
“I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
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Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.
He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.
In fact he faced few really big punchers.
If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to
conclude Wlad would knock him out.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and
wobbly against journeyman Lowry.
The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .
This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.
This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.
I say he could not do it.
"Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.
Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.
After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.
"I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."
“I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
Dude we need more posts like that and less of that other nonsense from these other idiot posters. Keep it up man, I really enjoyed reading that. Against Vitali though, I say The Rock is finished within about 8 rounds at the most, maybe 9.Comment
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I see what you're saying and really good points, which is why I initially picked Wlad. But I could also see Rocky either get to that chin in the later rounds and edge out a decision or get a late KO or stoppage. Either way, if Stewart is in his corner, he'll have him prepared with a good game plan and it'll be a hell of a battle. And Wlad showed he could battle I believe later in the Joshua fight, even though he came up short.
Dude we need more posts like that and less of that other nonsense from these other idiot posters. Keep it up man, I really enjoyed reading that. Against Vitali though, I say The Rock is finished within about 8 rounds at the most, maybe 9.
I was never a fan before that.Comment
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Ivich
Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.
He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.
In fact he faced few really big punchers.
If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to
conclude Wlad would knock him out.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and
wobbly against journeyman Lowry.
The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .
This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.
This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.
I say he could not do it.
By the way Hart was in between 175-190 pounds according to box rec in the years 1903-1904. A year before he fought Johnson. We know you use the source a lot. I don't need to remind you who won that high stakes fight.
Although I agree with you that Wlad wins, but the fact the you said Rocky lacks one punch power and fail to mention him showing it vs Layne. Hmmm... Walcott lasted one round in the re-match and Moore who was an all time great hall of fame light heavy and decent heavyweight had many good performances after he fought Rocky.
All of the above are facts.
Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-18-2022, 10:30 AM.Comment
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Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.
He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.
In fact he faced few really big punchers.
If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to
conclude Wlad would knock him out.
Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and
wobbly against journeyman Lowry.
The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .
This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.
This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Rocky never saw.
You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.
I say he could not do it.
"Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.
Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.
After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.
"I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."
“I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
I never at any time said Marciano lacked one punch power,what I said was he usually wore men down with an accumulation of punches ,that is by definition an attrition puncher ,similar to Frazier.
Marciano laid the ground work for the Layne Ko by targetting his soft belly round after round.
Walcott quit in the rematch.
Adam Pollack estimates Johnson was a super middleweight at the time.
O Brien did not weigh in for the Johnson fight, nobody knows what he weighed.
Neither Johnson or Griffin weighed in for their fight which Griffin won and Griffin fought for another 4 years
O Brien stated over a longer distance than the 6 rounds he fought Johnson he would lose.
Film of Johnson koin'g Ketchel shows him casually leaning back on the ropes in no distress what so ever
Just what relevance Jack Johnson has to Marciano is baffling ,
but Dr Zenophobic can always find room for a derogatory post about Johnson, irrespective of the subject of the thread.lolLast edited by Ivich; 10-18-2022, 06:14 PM.Comment
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- - Jeff 22 when he went 20 rounds vs Choynski, age 29, and Jeff scored the only Knockdown.
JJ 22 when he went up against 32 yr old Choynski who had been knocked out twice that year, and JJ couldn't last 3 rounds.
What B U next spaghetti legs equivocations?
Ever order sushi in France?
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