Rocky Marciano VS Wladimir Klitschko.

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Ascended
    word don't matter to i
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Oct 2020
    • 1928
    • 86
    • 1,701
    • 1,010

    #51
    Originally posted by Anthony342

    Yeah yeah and Stewart taught him to protect his weak ass chin, but Rocky would keep working in there nonstop, so he could outwork Wlad to a decision or batter those arms to open him up for shots at that chin and get to him late.
    Sure rock would do that he fought mutiple people like wlad
    the thing is this version of rock is madeup from your crazy mind never existed

    The real rock on video would be destroyed 1st round cause wlad fought way more advanced people who were real hws

    Comment

    • Ivich
      Banned
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jun 2013
      • 4377
      • 1,640
      • 2,302
      • 6,015

      #52
      Originally posted by Anthony342

      Yeah yeah and Stewart taught him to protect his weak ass chin, but Rocky would keep working in there nonstop, so he could outwork Wlad to a decision or batter those arms to open him up for shots at that chin and get to him late.
      Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.

      He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
      class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.

      In fact he faced few really big punchers.

      If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to

      conclude Wlad would knock him out.

      Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and

      wobbly against journeyman Lowry.

      The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .

      This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.

      This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
      You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.

      I say he could not do it.


      "Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.

      Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.

      After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.

      "I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."

      “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
      ​I never at any time said Marciano lacked one punch power,what I said was he usually wore men down with an accumulation of punches ,that is by definition an attrition puncher ,similar to Frazier.
      Marciano laid the ground work for the Layne Ko by targetting his soft belly round after round.
      Walcott quit in the rematch.



      Jack Johnson was 22 years old when Choynski beat him.

      Adam Pollack estimates Johnson was a super middleweight at the time.

      O Brien did not weigh in for the Johnson fight, nobody knows what he weighed.
      Neither Johnson or Griffin weighed in for their fight which Griffin won and Griffin fought for another 4 years
      O Brien stated over a longer distance than the 6 rounds he fought Johnson he would lose.

      Film of Johnson koin'g Ktchel shows him casually leaning back on the ropes in no distress what so ever

      Just what relevance Jack Johnson has to Marciano is baffling ,
      but Dr Zenophobic can always find room for a derogatory post about Johnson.lol
      Last edited by Ivich; 10-18-2022, 02:04 PM.

      Comment

      • Ascended
        word don't matter to i
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Oct 2020
        • 1928
        • 86
        • 1,701
        • 1,010

        #53
        Originally posted by Ivich

        Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.

        He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
        class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.

        In fact he faced few really big punchers.

        If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to

        conclude Wlad would knock him out.

        Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and

        wobbly against journeyman Lowry.

        The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .

        This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.

        This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
        You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.

        I say he could not do it.


        "Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.

        Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.

        After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.

        "I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."

        “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
        Get help you crazy liar and glasses

        Comment

        • Anthony342
          Undisputed Champion
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Jan 2010
          • 11801
          • 1,461
          • 355
          • 102,713

          #54
          Originally posted by Ivich

          Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.

          He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
          class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.

          In fact he faced few really big punchers.

          If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to

          conclude Wlad would knock him out.

          Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and

          wobbly against journeyman Lowry.

          The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .

          This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.

          This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
          You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.

          I say he could not do it.


          "Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.

          Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.

          After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.

          "I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."

          “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."
          I see what you're saying and really good points, which is why I initially picked Wlad. But I could also see Rocky either get to that chin in the later rounds and edge out a decision or get a late KO or stoppage. Either way, if Stewart is in his corner, he'll have him prepared with a good game plan and it'll be a hell of a battle. And Wlad showed he could battle I believe later in the Joshua fight, even though he came up short.

          Dude we need more posts like that and less of that other nonsense from these other idiot posters. Keep it up man, I really enjoyed reading that. Against Vitali though, I say The Rock is finished within about 8 rounds at the most, maybe 9.

          Comment

          • Ivich
            Banned
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Jun 2013
            • 4377
            • 1,640
            • 2,302
            • 6,015

            #55
            Originally posted by Anthony342

            I see what you're saying and really good points, which is why I initially picked Wlad. But I could also see Rocky either get to that chin in the later rounds and edge out a decision or get a late KO or stoppage. Either way, if Stewart is in his corner, he'll have him prepared with a good game plan and it'll be a hell of a battle. And Wlad showed he could battle I believe later in the Joshua fight, even though he came up short.

            Dude we need more posts like that and less of that other nonsense from these other idiot posters. Keep it up man, I really enjoyed reading that. Against Vitali though, I say The Rock is finished within about 8 rounds at the most, maybe 9.
            Well we can disagree without acrimony.I enjoy your posts too. I agree about Wlad he showed his mettle against AJ,

            I was never a fan before that.

            Comment

            • Ascended
              word don't matter to i
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Oct 2020
              • 1928
              • 86
              • 1,701
              • 1,010

              #56
              Originally posted by Ivich

              Well we can disagree without acrimony.I enjoy your posts too. I agree about Wlad he showed his mettle against AJ,

              I was never a fan before that.
              Crazy liar

              Comment

              • Ivich
                Banned
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jun 2013
                • 4377
                • 1,640
                • 2,302
                • 6,015

                #57
                Originally posted by moneytheman

                Crazy liar
                Thanks ,all the time you dislike my content I know I'm on the right track!

                Comment

                • Dr. Z
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 4527
                  • 1,160
                  • 1,362
                  • 12,768

                  #58
                  Ivich

                  Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.

                  He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
                  class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.

                  In fact he faced few really big punchers.

                  If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to

                  conclude Wlad would knock him out.

                  Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and

                  wobbly against journeyman Lowry.

                  The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .

                  This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.

                  This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Ricky never saw.
                  You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.

                  I say he could not do it.
                  Why don't you use the same evaluation skills on Johnson who was KO'd by Choynski, struggled in defeat and draws the past his prime his 180 pound Hank Griffin , was out boxed by a 162.5 pound O'brien according to some who saw the fight won, and followed it up by middle wight Ketchel where the NY times reported Johnson won still dazed from the Ketchel's knock down! Oh that right, such observations are only used agaist White heavyweights.

                  By the way Hart was in between 175-190 pounds according to box rec in the years 1903-1904. A year before he fought Johnson. We know you use the source a lot. I don't need to remind you who won that high stakes fight.

                  Although I agree with you that Wlad wins, but the fact the you said Rocky lacks one punch power and fail to mention him showing it vs Layne. Hmmm... Walcott lasted one round in the re-match and Moore who was an all time great hall of fame light heavy and decent heavyweight had many good performances after he fought Rocky.
                  All of the above are facts.
                  Last edited by Dr. Z; 10-18-2022, 10:30 AM.

                  Comment

                  • Ivich
                    Banned
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 4377
                    • 1,640
                    • 2,302
                    • 6,015

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ivich

                    Marciano was an attrition puncher like Frazier, he wore men down.

                    He was willing to take punches to land his own shots,but he never faced a super heavyweight of any
                    class,neither did he face a super heavy who could hit like Wlad.

                    In fact he faced few really big punchers.

                    If a 39/41 years old 188lbs Moore could knock him down and cause him to momentarily black out.I have to

                    conclude Wlad would knock him out.

                    Marciano was cut in all his major fights and in danger of being tko'd against Simmons and Charles,and

                    wobbly against journeyman Lowry.

                    The physical advantages Wlad would enjoy here would imo, be far too much for Rocky to overcome .

                    This isn't a 38 years old Walcott ,a37 years old Louis, or a 39/41 years old Moore he is facing men that he could wear down after absorbing their punches,,and taking punishment.

                    This is a 6 ft6in 245lbs giant who has a great jab and top end power in both fists ,something Rocky never saw.


                    You're asking Rocky to concede 60lbs 7 1/2in in height, 13 inches in reach and boxing skills.

                    I say he could not do it.


                    "Klitschko was the much busier fighter. He boxed, jabbed, and threw combinations to the body and head while Puritty covered up and stalked.

                    Klitschko was winning round after round, but he didn't pace himself and was exhausted by round ten. He went down with 30 seconds left in the tenth round, but the referee ruled it to be a slip. In the final seconds of the round, he went down again as he backed away from the onrushing Puritty. The referee ruled it a knockdown and gave Klischko a mandatory eight-count.

                    After taking several hard shots at the beginning of the eleventh round, Klischko's trainer, Fritz Sdunek, entered the ring and stopped the fight.

                    "I was unable to control my emotions in front of my countrymen in Kiew," Klitschko later explained. "Usually, I am able to stay cool inside the ring. In that night, I wasn't. I didn't stick to my game. I wasted my energy and I wasted my punches. The loss hurt me like a deep scar. But I also gained a lot of experience. I feel matured by 10 years."

                    “I just let him punch himself out. I’m sure he would’ve knocked out a lot of guys before that. I just happened to take a good punch,” Puritty said years later. "I feel to this day that had he been more patient and boxed, he would’ve won."






                    ​I never at any time said Marciano lacked one punch power,what I said was he usually wore men down with an accumulation of punches ,that is by definition an attrition puncher ,similar to Frazier.
                    Marciano laid the ground work for the Layne Ko by targetting his soft belly round after round.
                    Walcott quit in the rematch.



                    Jack Johnson was 22 years old when Choynski beat him.

                    Adam Pollack estimates Johnson was a super middleweight at the time.

                    O Brien did not weigh in for the Johnson fight, nobody knows what he weighed.
                    Neither Johnson or Griffin weighed in for their fight which Griffin won and Griffin fought for another 4 years
                    O Brien stated over a longer distance than the 6 rounds he fought Johnson he would lose.

                    Film of Johnson koin'g Ketchel shows him casually leaning back on the ropes in no distress what so ever

                    Just what relevance Jack Johnson has to Marciano is baffling ,
                    but Dr Zenophobic can always find room for a derogatory post about Johnson, irrespective of the subject of the thread.lol​
                    Last edited by Ivich; 10-18-2022, 06:14 PM.

                    Comment

                    • QueensburyRules
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • May 2018
                      • 21835
                      • 2,355
                      • 17
                      • 187,708

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Ivich

                      Jack Johnson was 22 years old when Choynski beat him.
                      - - Jeff 22 when he went 20 rounds vs Choynski, age 29, and Jeff scored the only Knockdown.

                      JJ 22 when he went up against 32 yr old Choynski who had been knocked out twice that year, and JJ couldn't last 3 rounds.

                      What B U next spaghetti legs equivocations?

                      Ever order sushi in France?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP