Rocky Marciano VS Wladimir Klitschko.

[Slugfester]

If Vlad doesn't have a glass chin he's got glass legs. His legs were not well coordinated after taking a shot. Once Marciano is inside, the big Slav cannot see the uppercuts coming. Marciano will be inside sometimes, his whole aim being there. If he does stun him with a punch then Rock goes by killer instinct, which he had in spades. One famous wobble and Vlad will not pry him off him with an abalone iron.

[QueensburyRules]

Marcianos debut was 192 lbs. hes stopped fighters who weighed more than 220.

means nothing though, hes better in so many different ways than Wlad. Height and a few more lbs are just 2 factors among 1000

- - Rock ever put together a career near that of Joe Louis?

Wlad the only fighter that did so. Nobody else close, but you talk as if he was some glass jawed journeyment, when in fact he's never taken a ten count nor one punched to Bolivia via Timbuktu like compatriot Lennox Lewis.

What grade U leave school? Wlad and Vit both hold PhDs.

[them_apples]

If Vlad doesn't have a glass chin he's got glass legs. His legs were not well coordinated after taking a shot. Once Marciano is inside, the big Slav cannot see the uppercuts coming. Marciano will be inside sometimes, his whole aim being there. If he does stun him with a punch then Rock goes by killer instinct, which he had in spades. One famous wobble and Vlad will not pry him off him with an abalone iron.

Marcianos handlers became extremely jealous once they realized who they had. An unbeatable fighter really, able to improvise and adapt no matter the circumstances. Marciano didn’t believe anyone could hang with him.

to retire all 3 of these guys (charles, walcott and Moore) while obliterating all of them and weighing for the most part LESS (people conveniently forget that he was actually smaller then them) also meaning he weighed less, was shorter and had a shorter reach.

walcott was almost murdered, there is a reason he sat down so early in the rematch. He wanted money but also his health. In these fights with Moore, Walcott and Charles, Marciano was waking up early the next day, they were all hospitalized, brutalized.

[them_apples]

- - Rock ever put together a career near that of Joe Louis?

Wlad the only fighter that did so. Nobody else close, but you talk as if he was some glass jawed journeyment, when in fact he's never taken a ten count nor one punched to Bolivia via Timbuktu like compatriot Lennox Lewis.

What grade U leave school? Wlad and Vit both hold PhDs.

I can’t remember s single quality oponent wlad fought. Even the guys that made his head do a 360 weren’t that good lol

[QueensburyRules]

I canât remember s single quality oponent wlad fought. Even the guys that made his head do a 360 werenât that good lol

- - Last squeals of emasculated Americans and Brits reverberating to the outer reaches of the univers…and I wouldn’t miss like U do!!!

[Ivich]

Marcianos handlers became extremely jealous once they realized who they had. An unbeatable fighter really, able to improvise and adapt no matter the circumstances. Marciano didnât believe anyone could hang with him.

to retire all 3 of these guys (charles, walcott and Moore) while obliterating all of them and weighing for the most part LESS (people conveniently forget that he was actually smaller then them) also meaning he weighed less, was shorter and had a shorter reach.

walcott was almost murdered, there is a reason he sat down so early in the rematch. He wanted money but also his health. In these fights with Moore, Walcott and Charles, Marciano was waking up early the next day, they were all hospitalized, brutalized.

Marciano was actually slightly heavier than both Charles 1st fight ,and Moore.
Moore did not retire after the Marciano fight.Neither did Charles.
Walcott elected to stay down in the 2nd fight as you have said. Marciano was heavier than17 of his opponents and the same weight as 3 others.
Where is your source that Walcott ,Moore ,and Charles were hospitalized after their fights with Marciano?

[Winginawolf]

Rocco had the smartest camp ever. Let's comb the world to find boxers with bad records and on five or six fight losing streaks. That was a brilliant strategy, but it does not make you great as history goes. You are 33-0 and fighting guys like Harold Willis, Art Henri and Red Applegate. It takes brilliance to find and beat 12 guys who were win-less in their pro careers. To find those guys prior to internet took some skill!

[Winginawolf]

If Vlad doesn't have a glass chin he's got glass legs. His legs were not well coordinated after taking a shot. Once Marciano is inside, the big Slav cannot see the uppercuts coming. Marciano will be inside sometimes, his whole aim being there. If he does stun him with a punch then Rock goes by killer instinct, which he had in spades. One famous wobble and Vlad will not pry him off him with an abalone iron.

Rocco would get knocked out by Jerry Quarry and Duke Morrison. He would have very little chance against Klitscho. Do you all realize that Klitscho was 6'6 and fought at around 245lbs. Ali looked like a giant in that picture taken with Rocco. In what world does slow, short armed midgets beat giants?

[Winginawolf]

Marciano was actually slightly heavier than both Charles 1st fight ,and Moore.
Moore did not retire after the Marciano fight.
Walcott elected to stay down in the 2nd fight as you have said. Marciano was heavier than17 of his opponents and the same weight as 3 others.
Where is your source that Walcott ,Moore ,and Charles were hospitalized after their fights with Marciano?

I want to know in what world, does a slow, short-armed, poor defensively 5'10" 185 lb dwarf beat a 6'6" 250 lb giant. Wasn't Klitscho an olympic champion as well. For God sakes they created the cruiser-weight division so 190 lb guys could make a living at boxing and not get brutally beaten up. Rocco would be a small cruiser-weight. Bob Foster moved up to fight the heavy-weights. He destroyed the Lt heavy-wt. division. He said that his punching power seemed to have no effect on the big heavy-weights. Ali toyed with the Great Bob Foster before knocking him out. I am barely 5'10" and was on a cruise in the weight room and met a guy who boxed cruiser-weight and was 6'2" 195lb. He was huge to me. I asked him about certain heavy-weights in boxing. His answer "those guys are too big for me"! Frazier was 6' - 212 lbs and Foreman was a giant to him and man-handled him. You think those big tall heavy-weights just let little guys walk in on them, no, they are hitting you with surface to air missiles. Tyson a 6' - 220 lb dynamo, himself struggled with the big heavy-weights. The Mongoose had Marchegiano on the canvas at 173 lbs and 41 years old. I promise you that Mongoose was no Klitscho. True Mongoose was older vs Ali, but he never hit him and was dismantled. Ali KOed him in 4 rounds because he predicted round 4. He could have KOed him sooner. Thank God for weight classes!

[Ivich]

I want to know in what world, does a slow, short-armed, poor defensively 5'10" 185 lb dwarf beat a 6'6" 250 lb giant. Wasn't Klitscho an olympic champion as well. For God sakes they created the cruiser-weight division so 190 lb guys could make a living at boxing and not get brutally beaten up. Rocco would be a small cruiser-weight. Bob Foster moved up to fight the heavy-weights. He destroyed the Lt heavy-wt. division. He said that his punching power seemed to have no effect on the big heavy-weights. Ali toyed with the Great Bob Foster before knocking him out. I am barely 5'10" and was on a cruise in the weight room and met a guy who boxed cruiser-weight and was 6'2" 195lb. He was huge to me. I asked him about certain heavy-weights in boxing. His answer "those guys are too big for me"! Frazier was 6' - 212 lbs and Foreman was a giant to him and man-handled him. You think those big tall heavy-weights just let little guys walk in on them, no, they are hitting you with surface to air missiles. Tyson a 6' - 220 lb dynamo, himself struggled with the big heavy-weights. The Mongoose had Marchegiano on the canvas at 173 lbs and 41 years old. I promise you that Mongoose was no Klitscho. True Mongoose was older vs Ali, but he never hit him and was dismantled. Ali KOed him in 4 rounds because he predicted round 4. He could have KOed him sooner. Thank God for weight classes!

I don't know why you have addressed this to me, I don't give Rocky a chance here.
However,Frazier was barely 5'11"and ,at his best 205lbs. Moore was the same weight as Rocky, 188lbs+1/4lb