Ali vs Wilt

[Ray Corso]

This is beyond sad............
Seriously stop posting here everyone.............
Posibbly speak to a priest or rabbi or sharman or atheist for help....

your all doomed...



go home! Nothing to see here.............

[billeau2]

You are the biggest Troll on the site. your boxing knowledge is zero, your only contribution to the forum is Buffoonery.

Tank yu vedy much its good to be disliked by the idiots, shows I am in the gutter with the right individuals

[Scott9945]

How can you not love this guy? Instead of urging the mods to ban him, we should thank him for the top-class entertainment he brings to this forum. Ali was "chinny", Frazier "featherfisted"... and Robinson and Louis were so bad, they would be struggling to find work today as sparring partners! Honestly, I was ROFL when I saw that last one!

And now this post, where boxers from before 1980 are so inept, that we can't even call them professionals! C'mon you guys... how is this not funny?

It was funny once or twice. But not every ****ing day.

[Bundana]

It was funny once or twice. But not every ****ing day.

Yes it is - and even you must think so!

I mean, in this thread alone you have, so far, replied to 10 of Elroy's posts (and 5 of Juggernaut's). Why would you do that, when you KNOW, that all it takes to stop the silliness, is for you guys to ignore these trolls? But since you keep coming back, you must somehow find it enjoyable. What other explanation is there?

[Scott9945]

Yes it is - and even you must think so!

I mean, in this thread alone you have, so far, replied to 10 of Elroy's posts (and 5 of Juggernaut's). Why would you do that, when you KNOW, that all it takes to stop the silliness, is for you guys to ignore these trolls? But since you keep coming back, you must somehow find it enjoyable. What other explanation is there?

I'll plead guilty to using bad judgment by engaging. But I won't admit any enjoyment of this garbage. This used to be a good spot for fans of boxing history.

[The Old LefHook]

Yes it is - and even you must think so!

I mean, in this thread alone you have, so far, replied to 10 of Elroy's posts (and 5 of Juggernaut's). Why would you do that, when you KNOW, that all it takes to stop the silliness, is for you guys to ignore these trolls? But since you keep coming back, you must somehow find it enjoyable. What other explanation is there?

I have been telling them the same thing for months. They have to enjoy it. I cannot find another explanation.

[juggernaut666]

:Luckily for the few imbeciles on here who cant put two and two together and make sence of the thread is that sonny boy still posts on it...hes the only reason why a FEW of you look knowledgable and even then on this thread you fail...with nonsensicle out of logic comparisons to what is being compared here...sorry but at the end of the day no one was able to tell me how great 6'0 200 pound folley was in 1967 or Handicapped Williams or 190 pound cut easy Mildenberger who was known not to take a good punch.....until then I guess you will just circle jerk eachother? Well we know the main imbecile on here whos initials are RC the other is actually two for the price of one and an idiot who thinks Lewis is a bottom barrel champ


I even actually had to explain why a 7'1 300 pound O'Neil would crush a 150 pound whatever delahoya were they actually to box for real...even posted a vid to show why...that's how nonsensical some are on here...whgich is why he ran off the thread when posed with REAl life circumstances had it ever taken place outside of an EXHIBITION match...that was the posters way in showing how Wilt doesn't win against short guys of the 60's and used it as an angle here?


I actually don't know whats worse having to deal with someone with a gun in my face or responding to the sonnys and Corsos on here... I think i'll go for disarming the gunman again and take that chance ...less of a headache for me actually and I know it wont be a recurring daily nonsense of b.s either way if I fail or succeed!

[sonnyboyx2]

:Luckily for the few imbeciles on here who cant put two and two together and make sence of the thread is that sonny boy still posts on it...hes the only reason why a FEW of you look knowledgable and even then on this thread you fail...with nonsensicle out of logic comparisons to what is being compared here...sorry but at the end of the day no one was able to tell me how great 6'0 200 pound folley was in 1967 or Handicapped Williams or 190 pound cut easy Mildenberger who was known not to take a good punch.....until then I guess you will just circle jerk eachother? Well we know the main imbecile on here whos initials are RC the other is actually two for the price of one and an idiot who thinks Lewis is a bottom barrel champ


I even actually had to explain why a 7'1 300 pound O'Neil would crush a 150 pound whatever delahoya were they actually to box for real...even posted a vid to show why...that's how nonsensical some are on here...whgich is why he ran off the thread when posed with REAl life circumstances had it ever taken place outside of an EXHIBITION match...that was the posters way in showing how Wilt doesn't win against short guys of the 60's and used it as an angle here?


I actually don't know whats worse having to deal with someone with a gun in my face or responding to the sonnys and Corsos on here... I think i'll go for disarming the gunman again and take that chance ...less of a headache for me actually and I know it wont be a recurring daily nonsense of b.s either way if I fail or succeed!

Your a "size-geek" who thinks size is the name of this sport. You keep going on about these 7'0'' guys, yet when did any 7'0' fighter ever dominate the sport?.. How come

Foreman 6'3' ~ 218lb
Shavers 6'0'' ~ 208lb

Are the universally known, Biggest punchers in Heavyweight history?

You are now making mythical match-ups, like above:
7'0' ~ 300lb guy vs 150lb Oscar DeLaHoya. totally ignoring the rules of boxing. How can a 300lb fighter, fight a 150lb fighter? Super-Welterweight vs Heavyweight??????.... How about your 7'0 & 300lb vs a 200lb Heavyweight like Valuev vs Haye.. we know the result of how that fight unfolded.

Your whole argument is flawed, it is flawed because you do not know or understand what you are talking about. If size was such a huge advantage as you claim, then answer why Valuev is not recognised, as the hardest puncher in history.

Zora Folly, Williams & Mildenburger would all slaughter Valuev, or any other of your 7'0' behemoths.

Your only form of evidential back-up, is a Youtube video, made by some fool who is of the same mindset as yourself. You ignore factual points put to you by posters, then respond with comments which are unworthy of being addressed.

[juggernaut666]

Your a "size-geek" who thinks size is the name of this sport. You keep going on about these 7'0'' guys, yet when did any 7'0' fighter ever dominate the sport?.. How come

Foreman 6'3' ~ 218lb
Shavers 6'0'' ~ 208lb

Are the universally known, Biggest punchers in Heavyweight history?

You are now making mythical match-ups, like above:
7'0' ~ 300lb guy vs 150lb Oscar DeLaHoya. totally ignoring the rules of boxing. How can a 300lb fighter, fight a 150lb fighter? Super-Welterweight vs Heavyweight??????.... How about your 7'0 & 300lb vs a 200lb Heavyweight like Valuev vs Haye.. we know the result of how that fight unfolded.

Your whole argument is flawed, it is flawed because you do not know or understand what you are talking about. If size was such a huge advantage as you claim, then answer why Valuev is not recognised, as the hardest puncher in history.

Zora Folly, Williams & Mildenburger would all slaughter Valuev, or any other of your 7'0' behemoths.

"Zora Folly, Williams & Mildenburger would all slaughter Valuev, or any other of your 7'0' behemoths.[/QUOTE]"//

lol...yea sure they would've the only guy beating Valuev at that time period would have been Ali.And yes due to SIZE Valuev would be relatively unbeatable to a a sub 6'0 guy or anyone around or under 200 pounds in that time period.....in your world I guess Sylvester Stallone would have actually beat up hulk Hogan too?,because he knew a little boxing?


I am not making anything up these were match ups to confuse the thread by the likes of posters like yourself.. they were as they say..your kind who avoid the question...how good was Folley in 1967? Still waiting on that one?


What makes you a dope you bring Haye into the post which is dumb in itself...for one Haye is miles over a Folley or Mildenberger I DARE anyone to tell me how hes not?And TWO it distracts the inevitable of avoiding the thread itself which is Ali and Wilt...therfor you have to take Alis opponets at that time period not magically make a HAYE comparison to beating Valuev..I know this is hard for you to absorb but at least TRY....meaning THINK.


I pretty much ended the thread with this since you did exactly what you couldn't is answer this...

at the end of the day no one was able to tell me how great 6'0 200 pound folley was in 1967 or Handicapped Williams or 190 pound cut easy Mildenberger who was known not to take a good punch.....until then I guess you will just circle jerk eachother?

[sonnyboyx2]

:Luckily for the few imbeciles on here who cant put two and two together and make sence of the thread is that sonny boy still posts on it...hes the only reason why a FEW of you look knowledgable and even then on this thread you fail...with nonsensicle out of logic comparisons to what is being compared here...sorry but at the end of the day no one was able to tell me how great 6'0 200 pound folley was in 1967 or Handicapped Williams or 190 pound cut easy Mildenberger who was known not to take a good punch.....until then I guess you will just circle jerk eachother? Well we know the main imbecile on here whos initials are RC the other is actually two for the price of one and an idiot who thinks Lewis is a bottom barrel champ


I even actually had to explain why a 7'1 300 pound O'Neil would crush a 150 pound whatever delahoya were they actually to box for real...even posted a vid to show why...that's how nonsensical some are on here...whgich is why he ran off the thread when posed with REAl life circumstances had it ever taken place outside of an EXHIBITION match...that was the posters way in showing how Wilt doesn't win against short guys of the 60's and used it as an angle here?


I actually don't know whats worse having to deal with someone with a gun in my face or responding to the sonnys and Corsos on here... I think i'll go for disarming the gunman again and take that chance ...less of a headache for me actually and I know it wont be a recurring daily nonsense of b.s either way if I fail or succeed!

Your whole argument on this thread is flawed. You are basing your argument of Wilt Chamberlains "Height & Weight" and that Cus D'Amato could turn him into a world beater, almost overnight. Well Cus D'Amato, great trainer that he was, was simply not capable of doing such a feat. D'Amato was not a boxing trainer of the caliber of Angelo Dundee, Ray Arcel, Whitey Bimstein or Eddie Futch. D'Amato's claim to fame, is the peek-a-boo style. Could you imagine Wilt the Stilt` standing in the middle of the ring doing the peek-a-boo LOL Muhammad Ali would dace around him, using his head as a speed-ball. The match-up senario, is beyond the relms of probability. Muhammad Ali, the greatest Heavyweight Champion of all times. Against a 7'0 behemoth, who has never set foot in a boxing ring in his life. Oddsmakers would have chalked Wilt up at odds of 50/1