Most Boring Champs

[sonnyboyx2]

Overlooking how inaccurate it is to call Tucker, Ruddock, and Bruno "Class C fighters" (I bet you rated them higher when they fought Tyson), using Phil Jackson (among others) is ridiculous. Ruiz and Byrd weren't remotely close to being heavyweight contenders back then.

Just a typical example of you throwing crap against the wall and hoping something sticks.

why is it ridiculous to use Phil Jackson?... Jackson was Lewis 3rd defence of the title he picked out of the trash can LOL .. i suppose you feel Phil Jackson and Co most worthy of a title fight LOL

What about all the top fighters of the 1990s who held versions of the Heavyweight Titles who Lennox wanted nothing to do with..i guess they were all afraid lol

[LacedUp]

Sure you have.

Yeah - Them, their team and the 1 or 2 fans they had cares. Nobody besides that.

I have provided that evidence before - but hey, I'll provide it again. Lewis fought in court to keep the WBA belt after having signed to fight Grant before a mandatory was made. The original mandatory Henry Akinwande was replaced by Ruiz because of a sickness. 1) Lewis vs Akinwande I was absolute garbage, 2) he had signed to fight Grant before Ruiz was even in the picture.

I have never said Michael Grant was WBA #1 contender. I have also never said Chris Byrd wasn't IBF #1 contender, I said he wasn't the official heavyweight #1 contender.

Lewis vs Tyson rematch clause:

Lennox Lewis says his next fight may be a rematch with Mike Tyson in June. Talks for a proposed bout in April between Lewis and Vitali Klitschko have collapsed, Judd Burnstein, Lewis's attorney, said yesterday.

''Now that there will be no April fight, Lennox has a contractual obligation to consider Mike Tyson as his June opponent and looks forward to seeing how Tyson performs'' against Etienne, Burnstein said.

Lewis had been expected to defend his World Boxing Council heavyweight title against Klitschko, the organization's No. 1 contender. Lewis under contract with HBO, and HBO officials said this week that Lewis was supposed to meet with them to plan his next fight

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/25/sp...n-rematch.html

Lewis vs Akinwande - turned to Ruiz?

Lewis is set to defend the titles on 29 April against unbeaten American Michael Grant at Madison Square Garden in New York.

But the WBA wanted Lewis to fight its top-ranked challenger, Britain's Henry Akinwande, who was disqualified for persistent holding when the two last met in 1997.

Lewis and his handlers knew a second fight with Akinwande, who is managed by Don King, would be box office poison and also pointed out the Nigerian-born Londoner was still suffering from hepatitis.

Akinwande has now been replaced by the WBA as number one contender by American John Ruiz.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/sport/675628.stm

Furthermore from a court decision:

Lewis A. Kaplan, a Manhattan Federal Court judge, ruled that Lewis had to give up the WBA title before he fights Michael Grant on April 29 at the Garden or risk being cited for contempt of court. In his ruling, Kaplan said the case hinged on the question of "whether a renowned professional athlete is bound to his commercial dealings by the same standards of honesty and fairness aspired to by the rest of society.

" Kaplan said that even though Lewis signed the contract calling for him to fight the WBA No. 1 contender, he never intended to do so. Lewis, the British heavyweight champion, had filed a lawsuit against promoter Don King in an effort to keep from fighting the WBA No. 1. King had inserted a clause in Lewis' contract for his fight against Holyfield that called for the winner to make his first defense of the unified title against the WBA No. 1 - at that time, Henry Akinwande. Lewis didn't want to fight Akinwande, because the two had met for Lewis' WBC championship three years earlier and Akinwande was disqualified for excessive clutching and not fighting.

Chwasky said Lewis would give up the WBA belt for now but would appeal the decision. He added that he would ask for an expedited appeal but didn't expect anything to happen in time for the April 29 fight against Grant. Lewis' camp hopes to keep King from putting on a fight between Holyfield and John Ruiz for the vacant WBA title.

Lewis statement:

" "I am very disappointed that the court did not even consider our major arguments that Henry Akinwande, who was No. 1 until a little more than a month ago, was unfit and John Ruiz is not qualified or a legitimate No. 1 contender," the statement said.

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.876115

http://articles.philly.com/2000-03-07/sports/25604963_1_wba-rules-lewis-holyfield-wba-rankings

WBA approves Grant fight before any mandatory is called:

- In February 2000, it was announced that Lewis would fight Michael Grant, ranked fifth by the WBA, on April 29. The WBA agreed to sanction the fight on the condition that the winner agree to fight the top contender within 180 days.
- Don King, the promoter of John Ruiz, the No. 1 contender, filed suit to force the WBA to strip Lewis and allow Ruiz to face Evander Holyfield, the No. 2 contender, for the vacant title.

Source: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Le..._Michael_Grant

HBO wants Lewis vs Klitschko:

Lewis could, of course, fight Vitally Klitschko and get the WBC mandatory out of the way until a Tyson fleecing could be signed, sealed and cemented. Creating "the revenge of the brothers" as Byrd's lawyer (and former Lewis lawyer) John Hornewer calls it, so as to create the HBO dream fight of Lewis vs. Wladimir Klitschko for next summer. How HBO love those pretentious narratives for their fighters bio reports. The problem is Vitally won't want to take on Lewis having just come back from his most recent injury bugaboo

"He's a breath of fresh air for the sport," says HBO boxing chief Kery Davis, who is working to sign Wladimir to a multifight contract. "He's a talented fighter and he's a unique personality. There are not a lot of boxers who have his education or who want to talk about the breadth and scope of subjects he's interested in. Besides that, he's 6-foot-6 and a handsome guy, according to my wife. I think he can be a star."

Source: http://www.secondsout.com/usa-boxing...s-lost-his-way

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/stories/2002-06-27-klitschko.htm

More on the WBA:

The politics of boxing rankings are such that the most deserving challenger isn't always the mandatory challenger.

As a result, when an undisputed champion like Lennox Lewis chooses to fight the best available contender -- as he'll do April 29 in New York City when he takes on Michael Grant -- it doesn't always satisfy the various sanctioning organizations and their many constituents.

While Lewis has the World Boxing Council, World Boxing Association and International Boxing Federation heavyweight titles, the WBA is under a court order to pull its belt from Lewis if he goes through with the Grant fight.

He's going to go through with the fight and contest the court order in an appeal that will soon be filed with a federal court in New York.

The WBA has moved John Ruiz into the mandatory challenger's spot and promoter Don King is working the courts on behalf of a Ruiz vs. Evander Holyfield fight scheduled for June 10 in Las Vegas. If King prevails, Ruiz and Holyfield will fight for the WBA title that Lewis may be forced to vacate.

"Don King has a lot of influence with the WBA," Lewis said this week during a conference call. "The belt's being stolen, that's all I can say."

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2000/apr/20/columnist-dean-juipe-lewis-says-wba-title-belt-is-/

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As I said, you're a muppet and you don't know anything about boxing kid.

Here are your links

[Scott9945]

are you now claiming any of them fighters i listed achieved MORE in the sport of boxing than Ruiz or Byrd?

My two points were:

a) Calling top contenders and former title holders class C fighters is ignorant.

b) No matter how you feel about Lewis not fighting Byrd and Ruiz, some of those opponents you listed fought Lewis before those two were even relevant, making the point moot.

I thought everyone knew the real reason that Lennox wouldn't fight Byrd or Ruiz. It was because they were promoted by Don King, and Lewis avoided dealing with King as much as possible, especially after the first Holyfield fight.

[New England]

john ruiz.

wladimir klitschko

miguel vasquez

these are the worst i've seen. vasquez and ruiz were only paper champions.

[Ray Corso]

Wilfred Benitez.

Terrific skills and a calm demeaner you don't often witness but to watch him counter move & counter punch all night does nothing for me.
Another guy who has to go that route because his power is limited.
Probably the "best" boring boxer.

Ray

[Ben Bolt]

Wilfred Benitez.

Terrific skills and a calm demeaner you don't often witness but to watch him counter move & counter punch all night does nothing for me.
Another guy who has to go that route because his power is limited.
Probably the "best" boring boxer.

Ray

It took me quite a while to learn to appreciate the Benitez kind of boxers. But today I love watching them. Especially when they handle KO-specialists.

[LacedUp]

Sonnyboy will act like the links never happened so he can continue talk smack about Lewis in the future

[Suckmedry]

Sonnyboy is just beyond ridiculous at this point

Anyway Klitschko is #1 most boring champ ever for me. He's utterly painful to watch. The jab n grab style of boxing is just a **** way to fight. Yeah the guy knows what works for him and he sticks to it to protect his chin, well done to him for that. But its excruciating to watch.

[billeau2]

Sonnyboy is just beyond ridiculous at this point

Anyway Klitschko is #1 most boring champ ever for me. He's utterly painful to watch. The jab n grab style of boxing is just a **** way to fight. Yeah the guy knows what works for him and he sticks to it to protect his chin, well done to him for that. But its excruciating to watch.

Ruiz perfected the style...he would dry hump the leg...It was said of Ruiz during his heyday that his manager Stoney, a hot tempered irishman threw more punches during a fight than Ruiz....

[BennyST]

I can vouch for Sonny...I am the guy who sold it to him that night. You had the regular programs or the "special" programs and Sonny bought the special program for a few quid.

Ahhh, I see. I think Sonny always has the 'special' programs. The Sonny Specials.

He never threw a single punch in the Lewis fight and put up a feeble performance. Ruddock was booed by the 12,000 crowd in Earls Court for going out without a fight.. he was pathetic!

Chris Byrd was the official IBF No1 contender having easily defeated Vitali Klitschko, David Tua & Evander Holyfield. the later two fighters far easier than Lewis defeated them... Lewis trainer Manny Stewart wanted nothing to do with Chris Byrd, Stewart told Lewis, "Byrd could easily make Lewis look very bad and that Byrd would most likely win a point decision.."

Ruddock didn't throw a single punch? Well, news to me! Why don't we take a look at that shall we?



Well look at that! He throws the very first two punches, and you have, as usual, been shown for the pathological liar that you are. He then goes on to throw and land quite a few shots, and looks sharp before getting caught. He even throws the first punches of the second round after being dropped at the end of the first and fights back very hard even after being dropped a second time. Actually puts up a hard fight considering how hurt he was, and there wasn't any booing because everyone was going ballistic for Lewis. What a funny little fellow you are.

Is it a narcissistic complex you've got that makes you lie so much? Histrionic? Antisocial? I wonder if you lie this much to people face to face or if it's the impersonal nature of the internet that makes you feel you can lie without the truth coming back to you, thus it feeds your narcissism to make up these childish little stories...

Anyway, why haven't you put up a picture of your fight program yet? You said you had it right there with you. It'd take you two seconds to put up a photo of it and 'own' me as you keep saying you're doing. You've got the proof right in front of you and a very easy way to feed your little narcissistic complex if you put it up and prove me wrong. That'll show you to be right and that you weren't lying at all. You just need to put it up, which isn't hard if you have it right there in front of you at your computer. I'm surprised you didn't put it up straight away in fact...