The young/prime Mike Tyson

[juggernaut666]

name me a fighter Tyson fought in the 80s who you feel was the equivalent of a 1973 George Foreman... what Foreman said is ridiculous about being afraid. Every good fighter will talk up their opponent.

Foreman himself admitted he was weak minded and lacked confidence behind the girth,he also said he was afraid of Frazier prior to their fight,Tyson would terrify Foreman because Foreman would also be without the significant size advantage they were both 220 or around that point ,theres no evidance Foreman wins that,,,Tyson fought the much bigger complete fighter Ruddock and shalacked him...Foreman fought Ron Lyle and was saved by the bell.Theres no way you can have that poor of defense and beat Tyson its virtually impossible .

[sonnyboyx2]

Foreman himself admitted he was weak minded and lacked confidence behind the girth,he also said he was afraid of Frazier prior to their fight,Tyson would terrify Foreman because Foreman would also be without the significant size advantage they were both 220 or around that point ,theres no evidance Foreman wins that,,,Tyson fought the much bigger complete fighter Ruddock and shalacked him...Foreman fought Ron Lyle and was saved by the bell.Theres no way you can have that poor of defense and beat Tyson its virtually impossible .

so Tyson fought Ruddock in the 80s did he and Foreman fought Lyle in 73 ????

[juggernaut666]

so Tyson fought Ruddock in the 80s did he and Foreman fought Lyle in 73 ????

Tyson fought Ruddock in1991 twice ,even that version beats Foreman ...Lyle and Ruddock only have power in common,skill wise there not close Ruddock the far more skilled fighter in the late 80's /early 90's.Than either Foreman or Lyle .

[billeau2]

Tyson fought Ruddock in1991 twice ,even that version beats Foreman ...Lyle and Ruddock only have power in common,skill wise there not close Ruddock the far more skilled fighter in the late 80's /early 90's.Than either Foreman or Lyle .

So you are going to just matter of fact state that everyone should know that razor ruddock is a more skilled fighter than george foreman? do you know how ridiculous that sounds? The least you could do is give a reason why you believe this minority opinion...especially considering the comp Foreman fought, even fat ole foreman fought better comp than ruddock!

I tend to think Ruddock is more skilled than people give him credit for these days, but better than Foreman? based on what? losing to Tyson and lewis?

[sonnyboyx2]

Tyson fought Ruddock in1991 twice ,even that version beats Foreman ...Lyle and Ruddock only have power in common,skill wise there not close Ruddock the far more skilled fighter in the late 80's /early 90's.Than either Foreman or Lyle .

your credibility is now in tatters, you are a complete laughing stock as far as boxing knowledge goes. you know absolutely nothing about this sport. To claim Razor Ruddock to be far more skilled fighter than Foreman & Lyle is ridiculous. Ruddock was a one-handed guy, who beat no-one of worth only a drug addict Mike Dokes.. Ruddock could not box, he could not jab, he could not throw a combo, he was one of the most limited fighters i can ever recall. Ruddock brought nothing but a left uppercut to the dance. Foreman was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world TWICE... Lyle put up a gallant effort against Muhammad Ali for the title. Both were vastly superior in every way than Ruddock.. Ruddock lost every time he fought a name fighter. Lyle beat many top contenders like Larry Middleton, Manuel Ramos, Buster Mathis, Gregorio Peralta, Jose Louis Garcia, Juergen Blin, Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Ernie Shavers, Joe Bugner and Scott LeDoux all who i would fancy to beat Razor Ruddock..

[juggernaut666]

So you are going to just matter of fact state that everyone should know that razor ruddock is a more skilled fighter than george foreman? do you know how ridiculous that sounds? The least you could do is give a reason why you believe this minority opinion...especially considering the comp Foreman fought, even fat ole foreman fought better comp than ruddock!

I tend to think Ruddock is more skilled than people give him credit for these days, but better than Foreman? based on what? losing to Tyson and lewis?

What was so skilled about Foreman ? Was it his wild hay makers or his lack of stamina,maybe practically his non existing defense? Delusions are indeed a grand thing to behold on this site however i'll take Holmes former sparring partner with the crisp punching ability over sloppy Foreman anyday. Next you will tell me how great 70's Foreman chin was ,dont bother just go watch little Jimmy Young drop him,....The only thing Foreman and Ruddock have in common,besides power is a jab....if your trying to tell me the guy who went 17 rounds with then a still relevant Tyson wont hold his own with anyone in the 70's you're mistaken .

[juggernaut666]

your credibility is now in tatters, you are a complete laughing stock as far as boxing knowledge goes. you know absolutely nothing about this sport. To claim Razor Ruddock to be far more skilled fighter than Foreman & Lyle is ridiculous. Ruddock was a one-handed guy, who beat no-one of worth only a drug addict Mike Dokes.. Ruddock could not box, he could not jab, he could not throw a combo, he was one of the most limited fighters i can ever recall. Ruddock brought nothing but a left uppercut to the dance. Foreman was the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world TWICE... Lyle put up a gallant effort against Muhammad Ali for the title. Both were vastly superior in every way than Ruddock.. Ruddock lost every time he fought a name fighter. Lyle beat many top contenders like Larry Middleton, Manuel Ramos, Buster Mathis, Gregorio Peralta, Jose Louis Garcia, Juergen Blin, Oscar Bonavena, Jimmy Ellis, Ernie Shavers, Joe Bugner and Scott LeDoux all who i would fancy to beat Razor Ruddock..

Ruddock is the crisper puncher ,as stated Foreman was one of the least technical champions of all time anyone with 2 eyes could see that his main skill out side a jab was pushing guys backward ,only in your world ,only in your world ....

P.s Ruddock used to be Holmes sparring partner and owned him,,,another reason your boy Holyfield ran like girl and fought the much slower Foreman instead....

[PitbullParsons]

name me a fighter Tyson fought in the 80s who you feel was the equivalent of a 1973 George Foreman... what Foreman said is ridiculous about being afraid. Every good fighter will talk up their opponent.

I'm not the one who said it, Foreman did. At that time it makes perfect sense to have been afraid of Frazier. The guy hit like a mule. I didn't say that he fought someone the equivalent of '73 Foreman in the '80s. You have your opinion of him as a fighter as do I. Neither of us can prove one another wrong. I think he would have won, you don't. Can't change that but don't act like I have been talking out of my ass about it. Regardless of the outcome, it would be a close fight.

[PitbullParsons]

I do somewhat agree with Jughead...err juggernaut lol Foreman was basically a lumbering oaf compared to great fighters but it worked for him so whatever. Tyson's speed, power, and TIMING give him the win over Foreman. He can punch at angles too. Foreman wouldn't expect the right to the body left hook to the head when he was pushing Tyson off.

[juggernaut666]

I do somewhat agree with Jughead...err juggernaut lol Foreman was basically a lumbering oaf compared to great fighters but it worked for him so whatever. Tyson's speed, power, and TIMING give him the win over Foreman. He can punch at angles too. Foreman wouldn't expect the right to the body left hook to the head when he was pushing Tyson off.

If Foreman fought like that post 70's he would be the joke of boxing nothing more than a technical Butterbean.which isnt saying much, yet he is a legend therefore how could a slick boxer with good boxing abilities who had speed power also in both hands like Ruddock ,compare?As far as Tyson ,he litterally sends Foreman crashing to the canvas in 2 /3 rounds .The beer goggles are at an all time high today