Where does Roy Jones rank?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No it doesn't make sense.

Jones has plenty of good wins between 94-2003. Plenty.

Maybe not Rahman and McCall or Akinwande level but you know, wins like that don't come around often.

Then name them?.. Who are these big fights?

Name them or quit debating.. Time to crap or get off the pot

[IronDanHamza]

1. Toney
2. Hopkins
3. Griffin
4. Tarver
5. Hill
6. Ruiz
7. Johnson
8. Gonzalez
9. McCallum
10. Woods

Could include Tate, Harding, Lucas, Sosa, Malinga.

Now give me Lennox's massively superior list.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Remind me again who Lou del Valle beat for his title, and who did Reggie beat?

[IronDanHamza]

Remind me again who Lou del Valle beat for his title, and who did Reggie beat?

Who did John David Jackson beat?

Who did the other MW "champions" he should have fought beat?

[joseph5620]

We are talking about depth, not single big win.... Yeah roy has a huge win over toney and coasted off it for a decade,,,,

name his next big fight after toney?

"Coasting" is your interpretation. I don't see it that way.

[IronDanHamza]

A guy Roy Jones should have fougt at Middleweight, John David Jackson, lost to a guy Roy Jones beat, Jorge Castro.

Oh and he lost to Hopkins aswell.

But Roy should have fought the "Champion" Jackson.

But Roy beat all the champions at LHW. "Oh but they arent good champions. Who did they beat?"



Ridiculous.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Why won't you name Roy's top 10 big fights

Prime Bruno
Prime rudduck
Prime Morrison
Prime mercer
prime golata
Prime briggs
Prime Rahman
Prime McCall
Prime Akwinada
Prime tua
Prime Michael grant
Prime vitali

That's 12 major fights for lennox and I didn't even use the 2 evander fights, and tyson, or a prime tua

Go ahead and list Roy's

1. Toney
2. Hopkins
3. Griffin
4. Tarver
5. Hill
6. Ruiz
7. Johnson
8. Gonzalez
9. McCallum
10. Woods

Could include Tate, Harding, Lucas, Sosa, Malinga.

Now give me Lennox's massively superior list.

I already did...

And this basically shows that Roy has no depth if griffin is the 3rd best win, and an ancient jr mid is on your list..
Gonzalez and woods were nowhere near as good as guys like ruddock, mercer, tommy Morrison, vitali..

Roy has the big wins over toney and hopkins, but afterwards it's mediocre opponents,,

Though I would have tarver and ruiz at 3,4.. Those were really good wins.. Then montel and Harding.. Woods was nothing special, decent fighter but basically lost everytime he stepped up

[Sugar Adam Ali]

"Coasting" is your interpretation. I don't see it that way.

What was he doing then... What other possible reason could there be for him to take no big fights in nearly 9 years and be content to fight Vinny paz, lucas, etc on hbo.. Yeah it was probably a business decision, but I don't think you can discount it when ranking his resume in terms of atg resumes...

[IronDanHamza]

I already did...

And this basically shows that Roy has no depth if griffin is the 3rd best win, and an ancient jr mid is on your list..
Gonzalez and woods were nowhere near as good as guys like ruddock, mercer, tommy Morrison, vitali..

Roy has the big wins over toney and hopkins, but afterwards it's mediocre opponents,,

Though I would have tarver and ruiz at 3,4.. Those were really good wins.. Then montel and Harding.. Woods was nothing special, decent fighter but basically lost everytime he stepped up

That's not in order.

Ok and the fact you've got Oliver McCall, Hasim Rahman, Shannon Briggs and Akinwade in your list shows Lewis' lack of depth.

On what planet are they "major fights"?

Clinton Woods lost every time he stepped up? Oliver McCall lost everytime he stepped down.

Henry Akinwande's best win is? Peter McNeely?

Yet you include these jokers on your list but then dismiss Woods? He's better than both of them.

The list I've given for Jones is better than Lewis' list.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

A guy Roy Jones should have fougt at Middleweight, John David Jackson, lost to a guy Roy Jones beat, Jorge Castro.

Oh and he lost to Hopkins aswell.

But Roy should have fought the "Champion" Jackson.

But Roy beat all the champions at LHW. "Oh but they arent good champions. Who did they beat?"



Ridiculous.

Your twisting words about John David Jackson,, I merely used him as an example, when setting the tone for how Roy's career went.. He was severely protected by his dad til 92 when roy fired him and got with actual promoters, then took his first step up fights vs limited Castro and vaca in 92..
Then as a business decision it was probably decided that we will cash out only for a toney fight and ignore the other guys, and choses to fight fringe contender for a vacate belt... You can't act like hopkins was nothing more than a fringe cintender at the time.. He had beaten no one of note except for some espn fighters.. That's why it was an undercard fight and not a main event fight between "the worlds top 2 middleweights" as some on this thread try and make it out as.. Hindsight yeah that was probably true, but at the time this fight wasn't a big deal.. Hopkins was nothing more than a fringe contender.. That's not even debatable, I would love to know who hopkins had beaten prior to the vacate title fight with Roy on an undercard of Jessie fergueson.. Lmao