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top 10 welterweights of all time
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Originally posted by wpink1 View PostGavin....Hmmm help me understand you agree Leoanrd is a top Welterweight but Hearns is not ,,simply because he only had 3 defenses. How many defenses did Leoanrd have.
you gotta do better than that.
his title defences
Luis Primera (very green)
Randy Shields
Pablo Baez (discraseful defence)
Beside Cuevas, who he beat for the title, who else did he really beat?
Now Leonard:
Benitez, Duran, need I go on?
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Originally posted by gavinz1970 View PostLets look at who Hearns beat at WW:
his title defences
Luis Primera (very green)
Randy Shields
Pablo Baez (discraseful defence)
Beside Cuevas, who he beat for the title, who else did he really beat?
KO1 Eddie Gazo (former WBA light middleweight champion)
TKO4 Angel Espada (former WBA welterweight champion)
KO3 Bruce Curry (had 2 close fights with Benitez, future WBC LWW champion)
TKO Clyde Gray (65-6 at the time, top contender)
TKO Saensak Muangsurin (former 2-time WBC LWW champion, won the world title in his 3rd fight)
Hearns had some good wins at welterweight, I'm not sure if his resume makes him a top 10 welterweight great but he didn't just beat those 3 guys.Last edited by TheGreatA; 03-05-2008, 02:58 AM.
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1. Ray Robinson
2. Ray Leonard
3. Kid Gavilan
4. Jose Napoles
5. Emile Griffith
6. Henry Armstrong
7. Joe Walcott
8. Tommy Hearns
9. Mickey Walker
10. Charley Burley
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Im putting no research into this, its off the top of my head so feel free to tear it apart and I will do my best to defend it anyway. Ok, here it is.
1. SRR
2. SRL
3. Emile Griffith
4. Jose Napoles
5. Jimmy McClarnin
6. Carmen Basilio
7. Tommy Hearns
8. Barney Ross
9. Mickey Walker
10. Ted Kid Lewis
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Does anybody have a link to Nat Fleischers all-time division ranking lists? Especially Welterweight and Lightweight.
I know cyber boxing mentions his rankings of certain fighters (top 10) but it would be interesting to see his full lists.
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