Muhammad Ali was not a great fighter

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Oh my god. Some people's ignorance is pathetic. Joe Louis went to war because World War 2 was a just war, in everybody's eyes. How just was Vietnam? I've said this a thousand times, i'm rather right-winged, however I know the Vietnam war was not just. Why the hell should Muhammad Ali goto a war that is against his religion, and for a cause he doesn't believe in? At the peak of the civil rights movement - when black people were finally fighting back for their equality - Ali was drafted for a totally unjust war, to fight for a country who treated him and his people like ****. He stood up for HIS beliefs, and I totally support his decision. Good on him for growing some balls and standing up for his people.

Don't give me that "he should have been patriotic like Joe Louis" bull****. Joe Louis did what he was told. That was his character obviously. Ali did not. And he made the right choice. Patriotic? WHY THE **** should he fight for a country that treats him and his people like animals? Especially when its for such a ****ty war like vietnam.

alright i'll tell you what i tell ppl about the iraqi war

you can oppose the war that idc about, thats fine everybody has there opinion, but when you won't support the troops thats just wrong, they maybe against it but they're doing there duty to protect the US, so you can oppose the war but never do not support the troops, what america was doing is stopping the spread of comunism, comunism is what leads to war, they stopped war by having one

[Heckler]

alright i'll tell you what i tell ppl about the iraqi war

you can oppose the war that idc about, thats fine everybody has there opinion, but when you won't support the troops thats just wrong, they maybe against it but they're doing there duty to protect the US, so you can oppose the war but never do not support the troops, what america was doing is stopping the spread of comunism, comunism is what leads to war, they stopped war by having one

How is going to Vietnam protecting the US? Going to WW2 following the attack on PH was protecting the US. Communism does not result in war? communism is merely an economic system. What would of caused a war are nations failing to accept that others excersised different ideology. The yanks were at fault just as much as the soviets were. How did they stop a war by having one? when they lost the war they got involved in?

[Heckler]

ya know they probably wouldn't have even made him shoot a gun they probably would have done what they did with Joe Louis
put him in exhibition fights to raise moral

Thats irrelevant, if he went it would imply that he SUPPORTED THE WAR. Which he didn't.

[Heckler]

Depends on how you look at it. Frazier started throwing only left hooks by about 1970, but I'd say he was prime from about 1968-1973. After FOTC, he was unmotivated, lazy both in the ring and out (such as laziness in the clinches and not training very hard). But I think he still had a lot of ability. But after Foreman, he wasn't the same intense animal in the ring, throwing punches non-stop. By the way, Cummings KO1 Ali.



THAT is why I don't like Muhammad Ali. If he wasn't such a ****, I might like him. I mean, he's gotten a little nicer in his old age, but you can't excuse all those things he did. I mean, I think Ken Norton likes him, but Frazier hated his guts for like 30 years, Foreman doesn't respect his ability and claims that he was drugged during Rumble in the Jungle, and even Holmes has been trashing Ali (although, to be fair, Holmes does that to everybody). Those were the other big guns when Ali was around. I'm sure more boxers he faced don't exactly love him.

Ken Norton likes him, Rocky Marciano liked him. Joe Frazier and Terell are the only people i know of that dislike him to this day. Away from the pre-fight hype people have always noted, especially fans and various sports writers that met him that he was a genuinely nice guy.. even people such as Howard cosell noted this. If you listened to his interviews, watched him interact with people you may come to this conclusion. Larry Holmes is a TRUE ******* that discredits everyone.

What Ali did to Frazier was wrong and ****en cruel. There is no denying this. That doesn't make Ali a bad person.

"I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry. It was all meant to promote the fight." - Muhammad Ali on Joe Frazier.

[butterfly1964]

Ken Norton likes him, Rocky Marciano liked him. Joe Frazier and Terell are the only people i know of that dislike him to this day. Away from the pre-fight hype people have always noted, especially fans and various sports writers that met him that he was a genuinely nice guy.. even people such as Howard cosell noted this. If you listened to his interviews, watched him interact with people you may come to this conclusion. Larry Holmes is a TRUE ******* that discredits everyone.

What Ali did to Frazier was wrong and ****en cruel. There is no denying this. That doesn't make Ali a bad person.

"I said a lot of things in the heat of the moment that I shouldn't have said. Called him names I shouldn't have called him. I apologize for that. I'm sorry. It was all meant to promote the fight." - Muhammad Ali on Joe Frazier.

don't pay any attention to frazier15thround. his words stink of joe frazier's nut sack and anus.

[Boxclever]

This thread is a joke.

[butterfly1964]

This thread is a joke.

of course it is.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

How is going to Vietnam protecting the US? Going to WW2 following the attack on PH was protecting the US. Communism does not result in war? communism is merely an economic system. What would of caused a war are nations failing to accept that others excersised different ideology. The yanks were at fault just as much as the soviets were. How did they stop a war by having one? when they lost the war they got involved in?

i didn't say America won the war, i said they went to war to prevent a war, also communism is an aggressive economic system, they invaded to spread what they believed, almost like a tyranny, anyway as "bad" as the government was they were a hell of a people, US would blow up a bridge, they'd have it rebuilt in a few hours

its amazing when you think about it

anyway point is Ali didn't go and whether your for or against it

[Southpaw Stinger]

Ali wasn't respected much at that time. He was looked down on because he was black. If Americans didn't treat him like an American, why should he fight for America?

[Asif Iqbal]

This is the biggest load of unwanted trash ive ever heard.

Ali was the greatest thing that ever lived in the ring, he was even greater outside it. He never ducked no one and he was truly the greatest boxer. I mean come on, jealousy usually does play a big part in a naive opinion.

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