Muhammad Ali was not a great fighter

[The_One77]

All the great heavyweights have flaws in their records....alot of there opposition has so many losses.
Tbh the only heavyweight champion who's opposition isn't crammed with losses is Lennox Lewis.

[Southpaw Stinger]

All the great heavyweights have flaws in their records....alot of there opposition has so many losses.
Tbh the only heavyweight champion who's opposition isn't crammed with losses is Lennox Lewis.

True but a lot of his best opponents were past their prime when he beat them. And he did suther some humiliating KO's agianst guys who shouldn't have beat him.

[Kid Achilles]

Lewis had two extremely terrible defeats and he remains the only heavyweight champion of all time who never fought on after a knockdown.

[paul750]

Lewis had two extremely terrible defeats and he remains the only heavyweight champion of all time who never fought on after a knockdown.

Yeah but come on, he wanted to continue against McCall, and he didn't make the count against Rahman, you're implying he had no heart, which is total nonsense.

[Shaolin Bushido]

He wrote all that instead of simply saying, "I'm a dumbass".

[The Noose]

dave anderson wrote one of the best nonfiction boxing books of all time, maybe you should look it up. "In the Corner."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068...lance&n=283155

there is always two sides to every story, always a point/counterpoint. I personally agree with a lot of the article, ali IS overrated. the only thing about him that was the greatest was his mouth, his ability to sell a fight. parkinsons robbed the world of ali's mouth. he never needed don king to sell his fights, he would have been the greatest promoter of all time.

anybody who ever grew up during ali's prime thinks he is the greatest boxer of all time, all classes, blah blah. thats because theres never been a more deluded and selfish generation than those people. joe louis, tyson, holmes, maybe even marciano would have all whipped ali if it was prime vs. prime. thats my boxing opinion.
personally, i think ali was a piece of ****. he had no class or respect for his opponents or his family or friends. he was a legend in his own mind, now hes trapped with that and the whole world has *****-itis feeling sorry for the guy without considering what kind of person he really was. its crazy, you read any one of the 800million books on ali, and every writer talks about all the ****ed up things he did and said, and at the same time they still have a hard on for him, making him out to be some sort of visionary or political icon?! he was a know-nothing athlete with a big mouth and pretty good boxing ability.

In short...Ali was a pretty good boxer who is considered to be in the top ten p4p list of nearly every boxing expert, historian, fighter, that ive ever heard.

To discredit Ali, is to discredit all of his opponents and wins.

Take away Ali's mouth, and he is still an amazing fighter.


Most people would never have the balls to speak thier mind when their whole career could depend on it.

[Heckler]

George has long since dismissed that statement. He said he was looking for excuses to explain his loss at the time.

George also said that Dundee loosened the ropes, he later retracted this statement... he was BITTER.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

i think Foreman still thinks he was better then Ali though

[Heckler]

dave anderson wrote one of the best nonfiction boxing books of all time, maybe you should look it up. "In the Corner."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/068...lance&n=283155

there is always two sides to every story, always a point/counterpoint. I personally agree with a lot of the article, ali IS overrated. the only thing about him that was the greatest was his mouth, his ability to sell a fight. parkinsons robbed the world of ali's mouth. he never needed don king to sell his fights, he would have been the greatest promoter of all time.

anybody who ever grew up during ali's prime thinks he is the greatest boxer of all time, all classes, blah blah. thats because theres never been a more deluded and selfish generation than those people. joe louis, tyson, holmes, maybe even marciano would have all whipped ali if it was prime vs. prime. thats my boxing opinion.
personally, i think ali was a piece of ****. he had no class or respect for his opponents or his family or friends. he was a legend in his own mind, now hes trapped with that and the whole world has *****-itis feeling sorry for the guy without considering what kind of person he really was. its crazy, you read any one of the 800million books on ali, and every writer talks about all the ****ed up things he did and said, and at the same time they still have a hard on for him, making him out to be some sort of visionary or political icon?! he was a know-nothing athlete with a big mouth and pretty good boxing ability.

Your a moron. Ali had the balls to come out, state his views and opinions with conviction, in 1960's america... this was simply viewed as outrageous for an african american of his status to do this. He had more to loose by refusing to go to vietnam then going. He will always have my respect for that. ****ed up things? Most of it was hype, even with Frazier it was mostly hype, but he went to far... hes not perfect, no-one is. Let me guess, your an old white guy?

[Kid Achilles]

I'm not saying Lewis had no heart but it's true that he was the only heavyweight champion to never continue a fight after a knockdown. His chin wasn't neccesarily glass but when he was hurt, he was HURT.