Muhammad Ali was not a great fighter

[Frazier's 15th round]

i know some people don't put Marciano on there top 10 and i don't think its right but i deal with it but if you don't put Joe Louis at least in your top 3, or even at the very least top 5 then there's really something wrong

I agree. I feel somewhat similar about Frazier. He had a lackluster career after Ali 1, so I understand people not putting him in their top 10. But to put him in the top 6 is even worse, especially because it's usually to build up Ali (as if he needs to be built up anymore). You can see people like Revolver putting all the greats Ali beat right behind him in their rankings, so they can go "Oh, look! Ali beat the 3rd, 4th, and 5th best fighters ever!"

[smasher]

Lowry has always been complimented on his ability to take a punch by those such as Marciano, Joe Louis (who used to belt Lowry around in sparring), and Archie Moore...who busted Lowry's jaw early in the fight only to see Tiger Ted last the full distance with the Ole Mongoose.

I don't see how only three stoppage losses to good hitters like Payne, Matthews and especially Murray (who was thought of as one of the very hardest punchers of his day) in nearly 150 fights indicates someone who doesn't have a good chin...Along with his tricky & defensive spoiler style (which was said to have consisted of a good amount of evasive footwork & clinching when an opponent got close), Lowry was always applauded for his chin & staying power back in the day.

Is it a black mark against Marciano because he couldn't knock out a "tough, ringwise heavyweight" when, according to a Dr. Thomas B. Quigley who diagnosed the injury from X-Rays only two weeks before the first fight, Marciano was fighting the guy with a slipped disc that was supposed to have required an operation?

I too own a copy of "BIOGRAPHY OF A FIRST SON" pages 123-24

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SMASHER = Yogi

[RockyMarcianofan00]

I too own a copy of "BIOGRAPHY OF A FIRST SON" pages 123-24

SMASHER > RockyMarcianofan00

SMASHER = Yogi

ur an idiot

your know where near as smart as yogi

and you think your better then me great have fun with it

[Living Legend]

Muhammad Ali was not a great fighter

It's funny how people like to hate on Ali, when everyone, I mean everyone would love to see a fighter like ali in the heavy weights right now!!! Call it what you want, ALi whooped ass back then and would whoop some heavyweight ass right now...

[smasher]

ur an idiot

your know where near as smart as yogi

and you think your better then me great have fun with it

You can barely string together a coherant sentance and I'm the idiot?

Get an education. The mind is a terrible thing to waste. Learn how to spell, then actually start watching boxing, researching it, and obtaining some knowledge before raising your ridiculous, ignorant, and biased arguments on a boxing forum.

[hellfire508]

As far as me being a ****ing moron and thinking the article was serious, I've already stated that I was well aware of the joke. I, in fact, posted in Montrose's "Muhammad Ali was not a great fighter" thread AT EAST SIDE BOXING when the article was still around (before the site crashed). I know the whole situation with Revolver, who might be an even bigger Ali nuthugger than Butterfly, Hellfire, or Heckler. Revolver put Ali at 1, Holmes at 2, Foreman 3, Liston 4, Tyson 5, Frazier 6, and he had a whole slew of Ali opponents in his top 20, like Folley and Terrell. Guys like Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano were nowhere to be found.

The article that Montrose wrote had me laughing my ass off, so I stored it in a safe place. I figured, since the "Why do you all hate on Muhammad Ali" thread was bumped, and about 8 more Ali threads were on the same page, it was a good time to post the article and get Ali's huggers riled up.

I am an Ali nuthugger?

I stick up for the guy when ignorant posters like you come along, because I know how great he was, and hate to see people talking him down. I don't go to the extent of saying he was unbeatable, there is no chance no-one was greater etc. etc. It seems the words - "hater", "nuthugger", "exposed" and "shot" are thrown around too easily on boxing forums these days.

[dennis_nengasca]

The greatest fighter is the one who is unbeatable.... I'm sorry to tell yah but no other boxer can reach the achievement of "the greatest" Rocky Marciano. The only flawless boxer with astonishing record of KO's. Ali is only considered as the greatest when "Amature" boxing is concern. He wn a gold medal at the Olypics and that was the only greatest achievement he has got.

I am so sorry if you got sored.

[Boxclever]

I Sussed this as a joke waaaaaaaaaaaay back, so HA

[BKM-]

Does annybody know Ali's amateur record?

[Southpaw Stinger]

Does annybody know Ali's amateur record?

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