Prime Ali vs Prime Marciano: Who wins?

[StarshipTrooper]

You can't be serious. The pool of talent was very deep when Marciano fought, on the contrary, champions today would be reduced to bums in his era not the other way around. Chisora woula have been a club fighter in those days, and size doesn't win fights, Ali would have his jabs slipped as Marciano comes in through low levels and with Ali being taller and taking risks, his body would be ripe for the beating. Marciano would cut off the ring and neutralize his arm reach and height advantage by breaking him down to the body while inside and shelling him with hooks and smother him with orchestrated power and ill intentions.

He's being sarcastic: It's a running joke whenever Elroy aka HWeightblogger aka Tommo starts posting in threads :chuckle9:

[Elroy1]

Chisora is ordinary now and would be ordinary in any other era. Marciano would have walked right through him. I won't even dignify the Ali remark.

Well this is your "section" so I wont dignify with further argument but to get back to the thread article...

Muhammad would thoroughly outbox Marciano for either a wide UD or mid rounds stoppage. Marciano DOES have a decent punchers chance, something like 1/5 or so, because the so called "prime" Ali (66-67) was weak chinned. Against what I consider prime (71-74), the stronger version, Marciano has zero chance. And this is from someone who respects/likes Marciano much more than Ali.

Your Chisora quip was simply hand wavium material. To think that Dereck would be seriously troubled by that far in the past champs is again, romanticising history imo. Your entitled to yours of course.

[Weltschmerz]

Dereck Chisora is a limited fighter, but I doubt Marciano walks right through him. No fighter really walks right through Chisora, just ask Vitali. Chisora is tough as nails in a ring.

[$Bullsfam$]

He was being sarcastic, I wasn't.

Chisora comes from one of the strongest eras of all time (objectively speaking, where all the evidence points, sans all funny business).

Marciano came from probably the weakest era of all time, objectively speaking as well.

Why? Because it was directly after the wars, all the prime stock for the HW division was thinned out due to war, it was a special case in history in which a 185lb face first mauler could dominate the division. Never before or never again could/would this occur unless there are similar circumstances in the future.

All of Marciano's decent opponents were over the hill or sub 200 as well. And of the several 200+ opponents he fought, none of them are "mentionworthy" to put it lightly.

Chisora would stop Marciano in a round or 2 and Ali would not last the distance with him like he did Frazier.

Chisora = underrated and it is actually disrespectful to consider a good boxer in 2014 against this criteria!

Dear Jesus Christ,

Please give the mods the strength to ban this man from posting in any thread regarding boxing history. I've always seen the best in mankind but after reading this I'm starting to give up hope.

Chisora would have a hard enough time beating the Ernie Shavers, Frank Bruno's, David Tua's, Ron Lyle's, or the Gerry Cooney's of the world. Dude needed a shakey count just to get by Malik Scott.

Lord give me the strength to deal with boxingscene trolls....

[Scott9945]

Well this is your "section" so I wont dignify with further argument but to get back to the thread article...

Muhammad would thoroughly outbox Marciano for either a wide UD or mid rounds stoppage. Marciano DOES have a decent punchers chance, something like 1/5 or so, because the so called "prime" Ali (66-67) was weak chinned. Against what I consider prime (71-74), the stronger version, Marciano has zero chance. And this is from someone who respects/likes Marciano much more than Ali.

Your Chisora quip was simply hand wavium material. To think that Dereck would be seriously troubled by that far in the past champs is again, romanticising history imo. Your entitled to yours of course.

So who is the best fighter that Chisora has beaten in his awesome 20 win career? Malik Scott? Kevin Johnson? Edmund Gerber? The truth is that he sucks and wouldn't be more than a workout for those who you ignorantly dismiss.

[billeau2]

Dear Jesus Christ,

Please give the mods the strength to ban this man from posting in any thread regarding boxing history. I've always seen the best in mankind but after reading this I'm starting to give up hope.

Chisora would have a hard enough time beating the Ernie Shavers, Frank Bruno's, David Tua's, Ron Lyle's, or the Gerry Cooney's of the world. Dude needed a shakey count just to get by Malik Scott.

Lord give me the strength to deal with boxingscene trolls....

nah!!! There is obnoxious idiocy and then there is the pure unrefined quality of having been born and bred, instinctually trained in that jungle where only the strong survive...Elroy is the result of that environment. YES Mom's basement is a place where one's feewings can get hurted at a moments notice, and where mom may not pay the internet bill! Elroy has to be on his best behavoir cause mommy could pull the plug at any time! Also when mommy doesnt give Elroy his attention, Elroy has to post things that make people say "Elroy!! bad!!!"

[sleazyfellow]

This has been done to death. It would be a good fight but if you're meaning ali who beat liston then how the hell is rocky going to catch him? Also ali had hand problems later on in his career, but during his prime he was capable of cutting up most of his opponents. I'd see it over in 5 with stoppage due to cuts. If Marciano didn't get cut it'd still be a wide ud for ali.

[Suckmedry]

Well this is your "section" so I wont dignify with further argument but to get back to the thread article...

Muhammad would thoroughly outbox Marciano for either a wide UD or mid rounds stoppage. Marciano DOES have a decent punchers chance, something like 1/5 or so, because the so called "prime" Ali (66-67) was weak chinned. Against what I consider prime (71-74), the stronger version, Marciano has zero chance. And this is from someone who respects/likes Marciano much more than Ali.

Your Chisora quip was simply hand wavium material. To think that Dereck would be seriously troubled by that far in the past champs is again, romanticising history imo. Your entitled to yours of course.

Is this guy actually still on here spinning this bs ? Get a fcking life

[LoadedWraps]

So who is the best fighter that Chisora has beaten in his awesome 20 win career? Malik Scott? Kevin Johnson? Edmund Gerber? The truth is that he sucks and wouldn't be more than a workout for those who you ignorantly dismiss.

Well said. Good post.

[E. O. Wilson]

I won't make a bold statement on who wins but those saying Marciano doesn't have a "puncher's chance" are delusional. Watch the Henry Cooper fight and imagine if it were Marciano landing those punches.

I wouldn't put money on this one.