Top 50 fighters last 30 years ie since 1984

[young_robbed]

Mccallum has great wins over Curry, Jackson, Braxton (not that great), Mccory, Draw with Toney, Harding, Sulumabay rematch (Sulumabay was past prime but still decent)

Went thru jr mid, middle, and Light Heavy

From the early 80s to mid to late 90s Mccallum fought at the world level....

Morales and Barrera are excellent fighters, but i think Mccallum was a better caliber of fighter... H2H I think he stops barrera in the mid rounds similar to junior jones, and i dont think Morales deals well with the body shots and loses a close competitive decision to Mccallum....

All great fighters but Mccallum a level above them

I don't think Kalambay was even past his prime against McCallum. Sure he got knocked out by Nunn in 1 round but I think he was caught cold. He had 5 consecutive wins after the Nunn loss. I think Kalambay was still very very good against McCallum the second time around.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I don't think Kalambay was even past his prime against McCallum. Sure he got knocked out by Nunn in 1 round but I think he was caught cold. He had 5 consecutive wins after the Nunn loss. I think Kalambay was still very very good against McCallum the second time around.

Good point,, my only point was he wasnt a prime kalambay but still a very good fighter.. I think the kalambay of the mid to late 80s was better version, but he was still a very capable fighter heading into the mccallum rematch

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I would like to thank you guys for making this thread a success,, 15 pages and over 140 posts.. For the history section, that is blockbuster numbers... Glad we got a nice discussion on this topic, so thanks to all that replied...

Side Note-- there is alot of really good fighters that didnt get mentioned, and probably dont deserve to be on the list, but it just shows how hard it is to be great in this sport... Guys like kessler, cotto, forrest, tapia, hatton, genaro, corrales, casamoyer, collins, and some others were hardly mentioned if at all, and they all had great careers

[Holywarrior]

Mccallum has great wins over Curry, Jackson, Braxton (not that great), Mccory, Draw with Toney, Harding, Sulumabay rematch (Sulumabay was past prime but still decent)

Went thru jr mid, middle, and Light Heavy

From the early 80s to mid to late 90s Mccallum fought at the world level....

Morales and Barrera are excellent fighters, but i think Mccallum was a better caliber of fighter... H2H I think he stops barrera in the mid rounds similar to junior jones, and i dont think Morales deals well with the body shots and loses a close competitive decision to Mccallum....

All great fighters but Mccallum a level above them

Good post. This shouldn't be as controversial.

[greeh]

I would like to thank you guys for making this thread a success,, 15 pages and over 140 posts.. For the history section, that is blockbuster numbers... Glad we got a nice discussion on this topic, so thanks to all that replied...

Side Note-- there is alot of really good fighters that didnt get mentioned, and probably dont deserve to be on the list, but it just shows how hard it is to be great in this sport... Guys like kessler, cotto, forrest, tapia, hatton, genaro, corrales, casamoyer, collins, and some others were hardly mentioned if at all, and they all had great careers

Is it too late to give suggestions? Even if it is, I still want to give suggestion of a swap based on your (updated) list.

Sergio Martinez is one of - if not the - weakest of the bunch. I would replace him with Santos Laciar.

Argentinean as well, but was better schooled and more versatile - in short an overall better operator - and had the better scalps with wins over Juan Herrera, Hilario Zapata (very close fight if I remember correctly), Antoine Montero, Prudencio Cardona, and Gilberto Roman.

He had the same stocky build and bullish traits as Galindez and Ahumada, but was more of an outright pressure fighter than those two. Excellent at seamlessly mix his punches between awkward, looping shoots and textbook ones. Good jab, good defense - just a very good all-round fighter.

Laciar is woefully underrated and I don’t see any flyweight have an easy time with him. He should, and deserves, to be included in my opinion.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Is it too late to give suggestions? Even if it is, I still want to give suggestion of a swap based on your (updated) list.

Sergio Martinez is one of - if not the - weakest of the bunch. I would replace him with Santos Laciar.

Argentinean as well, but was better schooled and more versatile - in short an overall better operator - and had the better scalps with wins over Juan Herrera, Hilario Zapata (very close fight if I remember correctly), Antoine Montero, Prudencio Cardona, and Gilberto Roman.

He had the same stocky build and bullish traits as Galindez and Ahumada, but was more of an outright pressure fighter than those two. Excellent at seamlessly mix his punches between awkward, looping shoots and textbook ones. Good jab, good defense - just a very good all-round fighter.

Laciar is woefully underrated and I don’t see any flyweight have an easy time with him. He should, and deserves, to be included in my opinion.

No it's never too late to post here,, I want this thread to hit 100 pages... Lots of fascinating thoughts and ideas have been posted..

Interesting thoughts about serg and lacair.. I see where serg should be dropped but unsure whether it should be for lacair.. I'm not too familiar with him... Maybe others can chime in to either support/not support lecair on the list..

[IronDanHamza]

Mccallum has great wins over Curry, Jackson, Braxton (not that great), Mccory, Draw with Toney, Harding, Sulumabay rematch (Sulumabay was past prime but still decent)

Went thru jr mid, middle, and Light Heavy

From the early 80s to mid to late 90s Mccallum fought at the world level....

Morales and Barrera are excellent fighters, but i think Mccallum was a better caliber of fighter... H2H I think he stops barrera in the mid rounds similar to junior jones, and i dont think Morales deals well with the body shots and loses a close competitive decision to Mccallum....

All great fighters but Mccallum a level above them

Wins over Watson, Collins and Graham aswell.

Other good wins.

He definitely should have had one of the Toney fights.

Great fighter.

[crold1]

Wins over Watson, Collins and Graham aswell.

Other good wins.

He definitely should have had one of the Toney fights.

Great fighter.

You could make a case for Mike in the second. That was one of those what do you like fights. He was more consistent. Toney was more explosive in spots. Scoring nightmare. Their best fight was the first, and Toney should have had the nod (maybe the best Middleweight fight of the 90s in terms of action and skill). Even their third was better than recalled.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Wins over Watson, Collins and Graham aswell.

Other good wins.

He definitely should have had one of the Toney fights.

Great fighter.

Yeah, Watson, Collins and graham.. Mccallum's resume is ridiculously stacked with a "who's who" of his era..

[soul_survivor]

Going back to what the others are saying, Morales' win over Pacquiao is better than anything McCallum could claim. Not to mention a win over Barrera, Ayala, Kelley and Chavez. That includes championships in at least 3 divisions if I'm not mistaken.

Barrera hols wins over Morales, Naz, McKinney, Croft, Kelley, Tapia and Ayala. In fact, imo, the wins over McKinney and Croft came when Barrera hadn't even hit his prime and in Naz and Morales he beat two p4p fighters of his generation.

let's not even talk about McCallum's victory over a smaller, almost shot Curry, he barely came back against Kalambay who was all but done by then and lost in the two biggest fights of his career in Jones and toney. He holds wins in 1 dimensional sluggers in Jackson and Collins. I'll give him credit for Watson of course, as well as Graham (b level fighter though) but his level of opposition and best wins are not comparable to Morales or Barrera, not to mention skill level and years spent at the championship level.

But I guess we'll just have to disagree.