Thomas Hearns vs Oscar de la Hoya

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  • GoldenGloveLove
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    #21
    I usually think Oscar is underrated but against Hearns? It's all kinds a wrong for Oscar. The only question is whether or not his granite chin carries him to the bell. He had enough power to hurt Hearns but not enough to stop him-imo. Hearns chin is actually way undersold.

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      #22
      Ludicrisp!!!!

      Oscar was in a different class than Hearns....Under Hearns. Oscar hung with the top of the division and won a few times but Which sugar would you rather fight? Leanard or Shane? Quartey or Hagler?

      Oscar could not carry hearns proverbial strap. Where as Hearns could be Ko'ed, He could also destroy you with any number of weapons....De La Hoya faded late, really had no spectacular attributes and was shown to be beatable many times.

      Frankly I think his best win was against a troubled Nando.

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        #23
        Originally posted by billeau2
        Ludicrisp!!!!

        Oscar was in a different class than Hearns....Under Hearns. Oscar hung with the top of the division and won a few times but Which sugar would you rather fight? Leanard or Shane? Quartey or Hagler?

        Oscar could not carry hearns proverbial strap. Where as Hearns could be Ko'ed, He could also destroy you with any number of weapons....De La Hoya faded late, really had no spectacular attributes and was shown to be beatable many times.

        Frankly I think his best win was against a troubled Nando.

        That sums this topic up perfectly.

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        • Sugarj
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          #24
          Originally posted by billeau2
          Ludicrisp!!!!

          Oscar was in a different class than Hearns....Under Hearns. Oscar hung with the top of the division and won a few times but Which sugar would you rather fight? Leanard or Shane? Quartey or Hagler?

          Oscar could not carry hearns proverbial strap. Where as Hearns could be Ko'ed, He could also destroy you with any number of weapons....De La Hoya faded late, really had no spectacular attributes and was shown to be beatable many times.

          Frankly I think his best win was against a troubled Nando.
          A touch harsh matey......

          If I'm honest the Sugar Shane Mosley who met Oscar impressed me greatly. Dare I say his performance against a prime De La Hoya wasn't far short of how well I think a prime Leonard would do against him at welterweight.

          Prior to Oscar's match with Hopkins when post prime and in a weight division in which he didn't belong he was never beaten clearly (it was all close/split decisions). He was shaded by Mosley, the Trinidad decision was very debatable despite him fading in the last three rounds, the Mayweather fight was competitive and pretty close too.

          Prime for prime I don't think he'd embarrass himself against Hearns.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Sugarj
            A touch harsh matey......

            If I'm honest the Sugar Shane Mosley who met Oscar impressed me greatly. Dare I say his performance against a prime De La Hoya wasn't far short of how well I think a prime Leonard would do against him at welterweight.

            Prior to Oscar's match with Hopkins when post prime and in a weight division in which he didn't belong he was never beaten clearly (it was all close/split decisions). He was shaded by Mosley, the Trinidad decision was very debatable despite him fading in the last three rounds, the Mayweather fight was competitive and pretty close too.

            Prime for prime I don't think he'd embarrass himself against Hearns.
            Felix Sturm and Mosley 1 are two fights he clearly lost.

            He also clearly lost to Mayweather.

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              #26
              Originally posted by just the facts
              with what SRR accomplished at WW, SRL with a prime H2H KO win, and Hearns modest resume at WW, I wholeheartedly disagree
              I say 'best' because (in the mythical setting of things) I would always put my money on WW Tommy against any WW in history (mainly because of the tools he possessed). He wasn't the 'greatest' because of the accomplishments of the "Sugar Ray's"

              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
              Hearns would win a wide ud

              But I don't think he stops oscar. Oscar had a great chin
              Ehh...after the Quartey and Tito fights I'd say Oscar had more of a 'smart' chin.

              I can see a wide UD win for Hearns with Oscar getting dropped 2 or 3 times (hell Hearns holds his right hand low he could get stunned/dropped by an Oscar left hook).
              Last edited by Mike Haynes; 02-14-2014, 01:37 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Sugarj
                A touch harsh matey......

                If I'm honest the Sugar Shane Mosley who met Oscar impressed me greatly. Dare I say his performance against a prime De La Hoya wasn't far short of how well I think a prime Leonard would do against him at welterweight.

                Prior to Oscar's match with Hopkins when post prime and in a weight division in which he didn't belong he was never beaten clearly (it was all close/split decisions). He was shaded by Mosley, the Trinidad decision was very debatable despite him fading in the last three rounds, the Mayweather fight was competitive and pretty close too.

                Prime for prime I don't think he'd embarrass himself against Hearns.
                I have to respectfully disagree with that. Leonard was a on another level from Mosley in the same way Hearns was on another level from Oscar. These four fighters are not comparable when you're comparing them in their primes at 147.

                As far as Hearns, there is nothing Delahoya could do better than Hearns. Hearns was a better boxer, puncher, and he could go 15 rounds if he had to. Cuevas punched harder than Oscar with his left hook and he barely touched Hearns with it. Oscar had nothing without his left to bother Hearns. I don't see any scenario where Oscar wins or even makes it close. I know you didn't say he wins, I'm referring to the few that have tried to make a case for Oscar winning.

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                • mickey malone
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                  #28
                  Hearns knocks him out every time imo....

                  DLH was a fine welter, but Tommy hit way way harder than Hopkins or Pacquiao

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                  • creekrat77
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                    #29
                    I mean just watch Oscar in his first fight with chavez sr. He had blinding hand speed and kept The Great Mexican Champion, Chavez, who had but one loss coming in with 89 victories, backing up the whole time. I really think Oscar has more then a punchers chance to put up a close fight with Hearns. I think it mostly depends on which Oscar comes into the fight.

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                    • Scott9945
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by creekrat77
                      I mean just watch Oscar in his first fight with chavez sr. He had blinding hand speed and kept The Great Mexican Champion, Chavez, who had but one loss coming in with 89 victories, backing up the whole time. I really think Oscar has more then a punchers chance to put up a close fight with Hearns. I think it mostly depends on which Oscar comes into the fight.
                      That was at 140 and JCC was already on the decline. No comparison to a young hungry 147 lb Tommy Hearns. Plus he won because of an early cut in the fight.

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