Best defensive fighter middleweight+

[Sugar Adam Ali]

joe louis i could never consider to be a "great" defender,, he was ok, but lets not act like he was a defensive genius,, his genius was in his punches,,, thats what made him great, not his average defense

[likeamulekick]

I Was talking about the video quality and was saying Louis was not a fast mover. I never said Louis was a great defensive fighter or that he was hard to hit just that it's not as easy as most people think it is

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I Was talking about the video quality and was saying Louis was not a fast mover. I never said Louis was a great defensive fighter or that he was hard to hit just that it's not as easy as most people think it is

ok,,, i dont think louis was fast with his feet but i dont think he was slow either,, just average in the foot speed department,, i have seen faster and seen slower

[persuno]

What people don't

What people don't realize is that everyone uses the techniques and tactics of persuasion each day

[mickey malone]

Louis's feet were too slow for him to have been a defensive genius
Had a sound defence for an attack minded fighter, but guys like Charley Burley, Holman Wiliams, Jimmy Bivins, Hopkins, Toney and Winky, were all technically, better defenders than Joe imo

[coghaugen]

Obviously Herol Graham, Sumbu Kalambay, '77-'78 Hagler. Chris Eubank's head slips in his first fight Michael Watson were the best I've ever seen lb4lb.

[mickey malone]

Obviously Herol Graham, Sumbu Kalambay, '77-'78 Hagler. Chris Eubank's head slips in his first fight Michael Watson were the best I've ever seen lb4lb.

Eubank abandoned defence after Watson I
Relied, more or less, solely on his granite chin after that

Kalambay, is a great shout however

[coghaugen]

Eubank abandoned defence after Watson I
Relied, more or less, solely on his granite chin after that

Kalambay, is a great shout however

Eubank abandoned defense?? His defense was often near-impeccable, against Malinga, Thornton, Wharton and all the Close and Collins fights - however he threw only half the punches Close and Collins did.

[Scott9945]

What people don't realize is that everyone uses the techniques and tactics of persuasion each day

Well thanks for that relevant information...

[joseph5620]

Well thanks for that relevant information...