Jones vs Brannon

[beez721]

yeah i know,, couldnt agree more,,, the dude was shot beyond belief and thats when he decides calzaghe, hopkins, go overseas, etc

its a damn shame, because had roy fought G-man, benn, eubanks, collins, liles, nunn, michlewski and he probably would have beaten them all, Roy would be a lock for top 20 ATG maybe even top 10,, he had the talent, just not the resume

I think hed have beaten all of them but mclellen. I think the gman would have cleaned roys clock

[beez721]

yeah, but mayweather took alot more challenges in his career,, just look at all the ppv fights floyd had compared to the 2 that roy had with toney and ruiz, and they were about a decade apart,,

roy really has only hopkins, toney, ruiz on his ledger, and i guess tarver 1,, floyd has cherrypicked alot but he has also taken the big fights vs oscar, hatton, cotto, canelo, corrales etc

roy was more content in beating mediocre fighters on regular HBO for guarnateed money, instead of trying to land big event type fights like floyd has had with hatton, oscar, etc

as much as I liked jones as a fighter I agree about the cherry picking. he was definitely a step above even floyd in that regard

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I think hed have beaten all of them but mclellen. I think the gman would have cleaned roys clock

yeah i would favor him:

huge over nunn, benn

slight favorite over liles, eubanks, collins,

pick em vs G-man, Michlewski just based on their power punching ability,,

Collins could also give him hell, but i think prime roy would have dealt with him but it would not be easy

[Anthony342]

Hatton, Oscar were good, because Oscar wasn't prime at the same time Floyd was a big name anymore. Canelo looks like a decent win now, have to see how his career goes from here to see how good that one is. Cotto he waited too long to take on, would've been a better win if he would've fought him a few years before instead of temporarily retiring. Mosley was another one that happened too late (that one not all his fault though).

At least Leonard didn't almost always cherry pick. He still took on Hearns and Duran when they were major threats and even though he waited on Hagler, he had only fought once in 5 years, so it was still a risk for him. Good win over Duran, great win over Hearns, Benitez, pretty good one over Hagler. The Corrales win is nice though.

[Anthony342]

yeah i would favor him:

huge over nunn, benn

slight favorite over liles, eubanks, collins,

pick em vs G-man, Michlewski just based on their power punching ability,,

Collins could also give him hell, but i think prime roy would have dealt with him but it would not be easy

Agreed, except I see him winning a decision over Darius.

[SCtrojansbaby]

yeah, but mayweather took alot more challenges in his career,, just look at all the ppv fights floyd had compared to the 2 that roy had with toney and ruiz, and they were about a decade apart,,

roy really has only hopkins, toney, ruiz on his ledger, and i guess tarver 1,, floyd has cherrypicked alot but he has also taken the big fights vs oscar, hatton, cotto, canelo, corrales etc

roy was more content in beating mediocre fighters on regular HBO for guarnateed money, instead of trying to land big event type fights like floyd has had with hatton, oscar, etc

My god you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

My god you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Really,, name all the great fights roy fought from 93-03

hopkins- who in hindsight was a great win but at the time, hopkins was jsut a USBA champ and not considered a huge threat

toney- Great win

Ruiz in 03- great win

Tarver in 03- Great win



Now please inform us all with your great wisdom, who roy fought,, what top level guys..

Was it the great vinny paz,

or mayber the legendary bryant brannon, and eric lucas

maybe rick frazier, lou del valle, the p4p champ richard hall

maybe it was an ancient 42 year old jr mid champ at lhw mccallum

or how about the over the hill virgil hill who had already been beaten by hearns and michlewski,,,

Once it flash in the pan montell griffin

How about the fab gonzalez

Or the ATG clinton woods,,

How many PPV events did roy headline like floyd has done


Please name the great big fights that roy was apart of....

Remember the epic clash with G-man,, or the awesome wars with eubanks, colllins and benn,, or when he beat his amateur nemisis frank liles in a unification fight at 168,, or when roy outboxed micheal nunn,,
Or when roy whooped michlewski..

Do you remember all those great fights,, oh yeah never happened,,,

So please tell me what great fights roy was involved in between toney and ruiz,,,

Please tell me the huge event type fights that are on par with floyd vs hatton, oscar, cotto, canelo, etc


Since your so damn smart, and i know nothing , this should be pretty easy

Please list all of roys big fight from toney to ruiz that were big headline ppv events,,,


I will be waiting

[$Bullsfam$]

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Originally Posted by SCtrojansbaby

My god you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

Really,, name all the great fights roy fought from 93-03

hopkins- who in hindsight was a great win but at the time, hopkins was jsut a USBA champ and not considered a huge threat

toney- Great win

Ruiz in 03- great win

Tarver in 03- Great win



Now please inform us all with your great wisdom, who roy fought,, what top level guys..

Was it the great vinny paz,

or mayber the legendary bryant brannon, and eric lucas

maybe rick frazier, lou del valle, the p4p champ richard hall

maybe it was an ancient 42 year old jr mid champ at lhw mccallum

or how about the over the hill virgil hill who had already been beaten by hearns and michlewski,,,

Once it flash in the pan montell griffin

How about the fab gonzalez

Or the ATG clinton woods,,

How many PPV events did roy headline like floyd has done


Please name the great big fights that roy was apart of....

Remember the epic clash with G-man,, or the awesome wars with eubanks, colllins and benn,, or when he beat his amateur nemisis frank liles in a unification fight at 168,, or when roy outboxed micheal nunn,,
Or when roy whooped michlewski..

Do you remember all those great fights,, oh yeah never happened,,,

So please tell me what great fights roy was involved in between toney and ruiz,,,

Please tell me the huge event type fights that are on par with floyd vs hatton, oscar, cotto, canelo, etc


Since your so damn smart, and i know nothing , this should be pretty easy

Please list all of roys big fight from toney to ruiz that were big headline ppv events,,,


I will be waiting

Hes not even worth replies mane. I remember he said one of the worst robberies ever in Whitaker vs Ramierez 1 was an easy scoring win for Ramirez lol


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[Sugar Adam Ali]

Hes not even worth replies mane. I remember he said one of the worst robberies ever in Whitaker vs Ramierez 1 was an easy scoring win for Ramirez lol


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thanks for the support,, he also thought tony bellew was a future p4p guy

[FightFit]

It is a shame those big fights were never made against collins eubanks benn g-man but boxing was a business for roy,he controlled his company if one of them was a mandatory or availible for a vacant belt when he was coming up he would have took it he never it seems went calling out to benn collins or eubank he didnt have to.I wont argue he didnt cherry pick he most certainly did at the same time he fought alot of mandatory challengers roy i believe chose a few low risk ok pay fights over high risk ok pay fights its not like al haymon and golden boy were around for him roy was tryna pull numbers on his own based of his olympic fame and ability to dazzle in the ring.He most certainly would of benefited financially from having a proper promoter but its a case of high risk low reward when your doing things on your own and at the same time your calling the shots for another fighter whos under someone elses promotional banner them deals dont go smooth.It seems we all agree he beats benn eubank collins at his peak he KOs all of them so theres other reasons surely it cant be hes ducking them! hopkins jones 2 didnt happen because b-hop wasnt liking the money split others may have felt the same.Me personally i believe the g-man fight would have happened eventually it would have been nearly unavoidable for both because they were both american and both would have been world champion elite in the same weight classes unfortunitely god had other plans.I wish roy had the cajones to go to england and fight benn after he won against g-man that would of stood for alot.You cant knock a pro fighter who started at 154lbs and wins a heavyweight world title,MW SMW were roys natural weight anything above should be considered high risk anything below EASY WORK.Reading some of the posts its like if roy fought these guys he would be the goat with like 250mil in his bank account regardless hes considered an ATG by THE experts and writers Benn Collins Eubank are not as for Gerald Mclellen he should have been one of the greats.