The scoring of the Lewis vs Holyfield fights..

[sonnyboyx2]

Ruddock was not the old Ruddock but its nevertheless impressive k.o..You claimed or suggested Holyfield hit harder i gave you comparisons.Lewis fought Bowe in the olympics which is basically sparring so not sure how a young Lewis not knocking down Bowe means anything ?What does Tyson being overweight have to do with Holyfield k.oing out of shape Douglas ?Has nothing to do with Lewis punching power ,he simply took his time and picked Tyson apart..Brewster may or may have k.od Lewis ?Wheres your proof?McCall was Tysons sparring partner for a reason ,Holyfield was never a power puncher in the early 90's thats just a fact ,big differance between hurting someone with multiple shots and one shot ,comparing one punch power to Holyfield and Lewis isnt close.You're still trying to beef up Bowe ,the fact is Holyfield had trouble with a much bigger man and Lewis would be no different,with the exception of more power .

Just as i surmised, You made a comment that Oliver McCall punched harder than Evander Holyfield which you clearly have zero evidence to back up. i asked you many questions which you have not been able to give me any proof or evidence in which to back up your claims. Which fights of Lewis can i watch to see his excellent jab??? maybe the Bruno or Mercer fights? which fights of McCalls can watch to see his true HW punching power???? The rest of your comments all fall at the first hurdle...

[Scott9945]

4/. You claim Lewis crushed Ruddock & Golota, but Ruddock was "Damaged Goods" after two brutal beatings from Mike Tyson, Ruddock never won a single round on any judges scorecard against Tyson. Ruddock never threw a single punch against Lewis in 2rds not one single punch. Golota was only a journeyman who had not beaten any fighter rated in the Top 50. Bowe looked shocking in his two fights with Golota and it was clear that he had slipped beyond all recognition. His speach was slurred and he looked a shell of his former self. Golota was also sedated due to a panic attack in his dressing room before the Lewis fight. Mike Tyson & Lamon Brewster also destroyed Golota in one round.

Why do you keep perpetuating that lie? The scores of Tyson-Ruddock II were 113-109, 114-108, 114-108. That could only mean that Tyson lost rounds. This isn't an opinion, it is a fact. And in their first fight all three judges had Tyson with 59 points at the time of the stoppage, indicating he lost a round. Your ridiculous agendas are bad enough, but please stop with the lies!

[BKM-2010]

imo holyfields prime ended with the first Bowe fight. He sustained a pretty heavy beating and was never quite the same.

Actually Holyfield looked sharper than ever in the rematch when he beat Bowe. His youthful prime started to end when he was going overboard with the PED's.

[billeau2]

Just as i surmised, You made a comment that Oliver McCall punched harder than Evander Holyfield which you clearly have zero evidence to back up. i asked you many questions which you have not been able to give me any proof or evidence in which to back up your claims. Which fights of Lewis can i watch to see his excellent jab??? maybe the Bruno or Mercer fights? which fights of McCalls can watch to see his true HW punching power???? The rest of your comments all fall at the first hurdle...

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[juggernaut666]

imo holyfields prime ended with the first Bowe fight. He sustained a pretty heavy beating and was never quite the same.

Yea but he didnt have the defense he acuired in the mid 90's ,i think Holyfield beats Bowe in the mid /late 90's ,you dont go past your prime if you are improving and adding 15 pounds of muscle ,i see absolutely no evidence Holyfield would be favored over Lewis in any year.This Sonny guy goes as far to ask which fights show Lewis jab???Surely not even you can agree to that,didnt Lewis even knock down Morrison with one.

[juggernaut666]

Just as i surmised, You made a comment that Oliver McCall punched harder than Evander Holyfield which you clearly have zero evidence to back up. i asked you many questions which you have not been able to give me any proof or evidence in which to back up your claims. Which fights of Lewis can i watch to see his excellent jab??? maybe the Bruno or Mercer fights? which fights of McCalls can watch to see his true HW punching power???? The rest of your comments all fall at the first hurdle...

I f you cant see Lewis excellent jab in practically all his fights ,well im simply debating with a fool...have a good one im not really going to waste more time here,youve only owned yourself and lost every possible credibility with that statement alone ,if no one has a Lewis jab in a top 5 spot they are simply out of whack.

[beez721]

I f you cant see Lewis excellent jab in practically all his fights ,well im simply debating with a fool...have a good one im not really going to waste more time here,youve only owned yourself and lost every possible credibility with that statement alone ,if no one has a Lewis jab in a top 5 spot they are simply out of whack.

lewis tended to paw with his jab a lot tho. hell,,ray mercer and Bruno out jabbed him. Lewis's right hand was lethal tho. that's for sure but I wouldn't say he had a top 5 jab. top 5 straight right for sure tho

[juggernaut666]

lewis tended to paw with his jab a lot tho. hell,,ray mercer and Bruno out jabbed him. Lewis's right hand was lethal tho. that's for sure but I wouldn't say he had a top 5 jab. top 5 straight right for sure tho

respectfully disagree...Lewis jab had power ,and accuracy...without it he would not have been the 90's dominant champ...like Wlad he needed it otherwise he would never been successful.ali had a pawing jab himself without direct power unlike lewis.which makes his jab inferior to Lewis.Lewis easily a top jabber over ali...the reach/power and able to control fights with that lone punch puts him over ali and many others.

[StAlbansBoxing]

Yea but he didnt have the defense he acuired in the mid 90's ,i think Holyfield beats Bowe in the mid /late 90's ,you dont go past your prime if you are improving and adding 15 pounds of muscle ,i see absolutely no evidence Holyfield would be favored over Lewis in any year.This Sonny guy goes as far to ask which fights show Lewis jab???Surely not even you can agree to that,didnt Lewis even knock down Morrison with one.

Lol. Anyone who thinks the Holyfield of the late 90s was prime can't be taken seriously. His absolute prime ended '92 and by '96 he'd well seen his best days behind him.

[billeau2]

respectfully disagree...Lewis jab had power ,and accuracy...without it he would not have been the 90's dominant champ...like Wlad he needed it otherwise he would never been successful.ali had a pawing jab himself without direct power unlike lewis.which makes his jab inferior to Lewis.Lewis easily a top jabber over ali...the reach/power and able to control fights with that lone punch puts him over ali and many others.

with all due respect...ali's jab did a lot more than paw. Ali's jab does not function in isolation, so considerring his feet he could catch you with a jab from across the ring. Ali like jack j could use the jab as a right hand lead and triple it up. ali could also set up a counter attack with his jab after evasive action with his lateral movement.

great as Lewis was these are all things he could not do with his jab.