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  • #61
    Originally posted by KO'er View Post
    Will the NFL and NBA please f**k off.

    The heavyweight championship is the biggest prize and title in ALL of sports, EVERY kid should aspire to be heavyweight champ.
    Why just heavyweight? Why shouldn't a kid aspire to be middleweight champion? Far more greats have come from middleweight than heavyweight.

    And the NFL and NBA aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Plat View Post
      Prime Iron Mike, that is. The combination of raw God given talent, power, speed, quickness, punching combos and aggression, especially in the HW division. Personally I think the NFL is making sure that we wont see another one for a while.

      I could watch this all day long

      http://********/g-478QGV9pc
      didnt they say that about dempsey?

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      • #63
        What we'll probably never see again is an Ali. Heavyweights are getting bigger, and with that they're getting slower. There's a good chance we'll never see another heavyweight who can move like a flyweight the way Ali could.

        Heck, I don't know if we'll ever see another Holmes.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by New England View Post
          that link showed 10 short guys, not the only 10 short guys in the league. it means nothing. the steelers have a guy who is 5'6.5", and a bunch of guys who are 5'9" or below. several between 5'9" and 5'11", too. the bucks have jeff demps, who is 5'7" [and a world class sprinter,] and that martin kid who rushed well against the pats yesterday. they have other guys who are 5'9" or less in addition to those two. they list doug martin at 5'9", but he's 5'8" at best.



          there are tons of 5'9" inch guys in the league, and this is a league that embellishes height. height is often embellished in college recruiting. i don't know why i'm even bothering, as tyson would be 6'0" on an nfl roster, and in reality was 5'11" tall.

          he's not too small to be a runningback. in fact, he would be a big runningback, especially in college.
          http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/25/us/for...ors_picks=true

          Check out this link. It is important because it points out (the stats at the end) a contrary point of view. I think the NFL will become less popular because of a host of factors. As fighters like the 1%ers in boxing form their own management boxing will become attractive again. King and Arum as an epoche have left and there will be reprecussions to the betterment of fighters. Anyhow the NFL is hardly a picnic!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
            http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/25/us/for...ors_picks=true

            Check out this link. It is important because it points out (the stats at the end) a contrary point of view. I think the NFL will become less popular because of a host of factors. As fighters like the 1%ers in boxing form their own management boxing will become attractive again. King and Arum as an epoche have left and there will be reprecussions to the betterment of fighters. Anyhow the NFL is hardly a picnic!
            Football is a brutal sport and always has been. It was nearly banned in the early 20th century because of all the deaths in the college game. It got "safer" over the years (insofar as the number of deaths drastically declined) but safer is a relative term and even at it's safest the toll it takes on the body and brain is terrible.

            That being said, that brutality is part of it's attraction.
            Last edited by StarshipTrooper; 09-28-2013, 12:40 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Plat View Post
              Prime Iron Mike, that is. The combination of raw God given talent, power, speed, quickness, punching combos and aggression, especially in the HW division. Personally I think the NFL is making sure that we wont see another one for a while.

              I could watch this all day long

              http://********/g-478QGV9pc
              Sure we could see another Mike Tyson if he donates some dna to science and future science can clone him (but you would then have to make sure the drone has a horrid childhood on the streets to make him mean and to toughen him up AND YOU ALSO NEED to clone his legendary trainer to teach him the Patterson style). A lot of things go into making a man what he is and it is that life experience that makes him what he is.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                Football is a brutal sport and always has been. It was nearly banned in the early 20th century because of all the deaths in the college game. It got "safer" over the years (insofar as the number of deaths drastically declined) but safer is a relative turn and even at it's safest the toll it takes on the body and brain is terrible.

                That being said, that brutality is part of it's attraction.
                If you think that is hard core mate then you have never seen much Rugby league in your lifetime. That is easily the toughest team sport on the planet. And yeah, deaths have occurred and plenty of quadraplegics from broken necks. I was around watching it back in the 70's where it was anything goes, no holds barred and no helmets or pads> Not denigrating American football at all but Rugby league is freaking tough man, especially in the good old days when it was like boxing and wrestling in a ring with a ball and 26 mofos going in, headbutts and all. A typically Australian type of sport indeed. (Anthony Mundine made his name first as a cry baby 5/8th for The St, George dragons, and he was a prick way back then too, but he was pretty good, just not one of the best.). Virtually every top professional has hip replacements and all their knees replaced as well, these guys suffer broken bones galore. Ron Coote had most of his bones broken in his career (he is a legend).

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                  Why just heavyweight? Why shouldn't a kid aspire to be middleweight champion? Far more greats have come from middleweight than heavyweight.

                  And the NFL and NBA aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
                  Totally agree, the Middleweight greats are many, there is more than 20 of them who were beyond any doubt great champions and they were pound for pound better virtually every HW to ever step in the ring.

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                  • #69
                    Too true

                    Originally posted by SBleeder View Post
                    There have been better heavyweights than Tyson since Tyson.
                    No doubt about it at all, ffs, Holyfield was a better fighter than tyson. Mike blew it big time.

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                    • #70
                      Yes but Holyfield didn't knock out as many opponents as quickly and brutally as Tyson. In terms of sheer brutality, will we see another fighter like that? I sure hope so because it's knockouts like that that drew me to boxing in the first place.

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