what fighters look good in loss?

[joseph5620]

I think Mike Weaver came out looking very good against Larry Holmes by showing he was a legitimate top fighter and it really took his career to another level. Before that it seems he largely known as a fighter who lost his first pro fight and lost to Duane Bobick's brother.

He was a late bloomer in boxing apparently. He gave Holmes the toughest fight in his prime outside of Norton and looked good enough where Holmes never fought him again even when both were champions.

[Anthony342]

I feel the same way about that. It was unnecessary and embarrassing in my opinion.

What were the scorecards going into that last round in the Thrilla in Manila?

[joseph5620]

What were the scorecards going into that last round in the Thrilla in Manila?

That's a good question. I have a hard time finding scorecards for fights in the 70's. I've always wondered what the scorecards were for Ali-Frazier 3 and Ali-Foreman but I can't find them.

[Scott9945]

That's a good question. I have a hard time finding scorecards for fights in the 70's. I've always wondered what the scorecards were for Ali-Frazier 3 and Ali-Foreman but I can't find them.

Ali was ahead by 4, 5, and 6 points on the scorecards for the 3rd Frazier fight. In the Foreman fight he was ahead by 3, 3, and 2 points.

http://www.petemccormack.com/blog/?p=2118

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091113060740AAxg4WT

[joseph5620]

Ali was ahead by 4, 5, and 6 points on the scorecards for the 3rd Frazier fight. In the Foreman fight he was ahead by 3, 3, and 2 points.

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http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...3060740AAxg4WT

Thanks Scott!

[Sugarj]

Ali was ahead by 4, 5, and 6 points on the scorecards for the 3rd Frazier fight. In the Foreman fight he was ahead by 3, 3, and 2 points.

http://www.petemccormack.com/blog/?p=2118

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...3060740AAxg4WT

The Foreman fight scoring was interesting. The three judges could only find 3 rounds between them to award to Foreman (in total!!!). One judge gave Foreman two rounds of the completed seven, one gave him nothing and the other gave him one round. Basically all Ali had to do was last the distance and he was getting his title back! Like it or not, I've got a feeling that Foreman was going to be shafted.

To most eyes Foreman deserved at least 3 of the completed 7. It should have been a close fight on the cards.

As for the Thrilla in Manilla. Ali's early lead and excellent 12, 13 and 14th rounds had him well ahead on all cards going into the 15th; though each judge had been stingy to Joe. The scoring system in place appears to have been a five point system which indicated that Ali had only lost three or four rounds on all cards.....which was ridiculous! However I'm not sure if Ali's dominance in rounds 13 & 14 might have been judged the equivalent of 10:8 rounds, I'm not as familiar with this scoring system.

That said Joe couldn't see anything and was eating a ridiculous amount of headshots!

[joseph5620]

Ali was ahead by 4, 5, and 6 points on the scorecards for the 3rd Frazier fight. In the Foreman fight he was ahead by 3, 3, and 2 points.

http://www.petemccormack.com/blog/?p=2118

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...3060740AAxg4WT

I Just read the thrilla in Manilla article. Great stuff and very interesting.

[violaandme]

at least the cards were filled out unlike the cards that came up missing after "the Fight" Chavez vs Whitaker

[Anthony342]

Ali was ahead by 4, 5, and 6 points on the scorecards for the 3rd Frazier fight. In the Foreman fight he was ahead by 3, 3, and 2 points.

http://www.petemccormack.com/blog/?p=2118

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...3060740AAxg4WT

Thanks. Then that really makes it a good stoppage. Joe's only chance was a KO/TKO and it seemed like he would've taken a lot more damage in the process. Interesting that Ali was thinking about a stoppage due to sheer exhaustion, but I imagine he still would've gone out for the final round.

[McGoorty]

That was Tszyu beating Leonardo Mas and then getting screwed by terrible referee Joe Cortez.

Ah yes, I remember now, it is beyond doubt the worst single decision in boxing history. Kostya was a destroyer, I LOVED watching his fights but bI refused to watch him fight Hatton after almost a 2 year lay off, I was angry at Tszyu's management for not picking a welterweight big name opponent, I felt that he HAD NOTHING TO PROVE at Jnr Welter, he should have gone up in weight and tried to win a WW belt. I had a bad feeling that Kostya needed at least a warm up fight before facing Hatton who unlike Tszyu at that stage was very active. I don't care about his loss to Hatton because I am almost %100 sure that a prime Kostya simply eats Ricky Hatton alive, no contest, Hatton was never in Tszyu's class.