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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #31
    Originally posted by RubenSonny
    Certainly before Wilde, Dempsey, Johnson and Chavez.
    I'm assuming your talking about jimmy Wilde and jack johnson, so correct me if I'm wrong...

    Roy should def be ahead of jimmy Wilde,, Wilde was just a big puncher and from all I have read, he seems to have peaked when boxing as a sport was still in its infancy and was still really crude... I doubt he would have much success from 1915-present..

    Jack Johnson is a lot closer, but Roy I believe was better h2h and resumes are pretty even, but probably a slight edge to Roy.. I use to rank johnson much higher but lately I've realized johnson gets a lot of "bonus points" for going thru all the racial stuff,,in the end the outside the ring stuff shouldn't affect your rating

    Chavez i give a slight edge to... H2h I think Roy could beat him, but it's close, and I favor chavez's resume more... I got Chavez around 18, Roy around 25

    Roy is way ahead of dempsey

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #32
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      I'm assuming your talking about jimmy Wilde and jack johnson, so correct me if I'm wrong...

      Roy should def be ahead of jimmy Wilde,, Wilde was just a big puncher and from all I have read, he seems to have peaked when boxing as a sport was still in its infancy and was still really crude... I doubt he would have much success from 1915-present..

      Jack Johnson is a lot closer, but Roy I believe was better h2h and resumes are pretty even, but probably a slight edge to Roy.. I use to rank johnson much higher but lately I've realized johnson gets a lot of "bonus points" for going thru all the racial stuff,,in the end the outside the ring stuff shouldn't affect your rating

      Chavez i give a slight edge to... H2h I think Roy could beat him, but it's close, and I favor chavez's resume more... I got Chavez around 18, Roy around 25

      Roy is way ahead of dempsey
      Roy's resume is much better than Jack Johnsons.

      Better than Chavez' aswell.

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      • billeau2
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        #33
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Roy's resume is much better than Jack Johnsons.

        Better than Chavez' aswell.
        Especially considering that Chavez was literally outclassed by Whitaker.

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        • Japanese Boxing
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          #34
          Originally posted by soul_survivor
          You get the award for the worst list ever, LaMotta gets a mention but Ali doesn't? Canzoneri above Louis and Armstrong? Johnson above Duran....OK
          You get the award for worst reading comprehension ever. I said it's not in a real order and that's just listing people off the top of my head.

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          • J-champ
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            #35
            I would not be able to place any modern fighter on a top twenty list based on what the have done so far. Sad I know, but realistic.

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            • LacedUp
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              #36
              Originally posted by billeau2
              Especially considering that Chavez was literally outclassed by Whitaker.
              Why does that lessen his resume? Was Roy Jones not knocked out by Tarver at a similar stage in his career?

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              • LacedUp
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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                Roy's resume is much better than Jack Johnsons.

                Better than Chavez' aswell.
                I think it's debatable who has a better resume of Chavez and Roy Jones. In fact, I'd say it's pretty comparable.

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                • soul_survivor
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Japanese Boxing
                  You get the award for worst reading comprehension ever. I said it's not in a real order and that's just listing people off the top of my head.
                  Ali, the most famous fighter in history wasn't on the top of your head when you were listing those names? Out of 20 tries he didn't once pop up? BS man, you either trolling or just tryin to make a controversial list

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                  • soul_survivor
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    I think it's debatable who has a better resume of Chavez and Roy Jones. In fact, I'd say it's pretty comparable.
                    Chavez imo has clearly the better resume, the better title runs and the better wins. RJJ doesn't get close.

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                    • BennyST
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by billeau2
                      Especially considering that Chavez was literally outclassed by Whitaker.
                      ...and Jones was brutally knocked out by Tarver at the same stage of their careers. The Whitaker loss was a big fight, and great win for SP, as was the Jones win for Tarver, but both were at the tail end of their careers.

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