Worst resume for a fighter considered ATG

[IronDanHamza]

Aaron Pryor and Bob Foster.

Neither are ATG's IMO.

Maybe Foster.

You're right though. Foster has a weak/overrated resume IMO despite the fact he didn't duck anyone and beat the best available. A victim of a weak era really.

[IronDanHamza]

Vitali, if you consider him an ATG.

Definitley not an ATG IMO.

I'm not sure I'd consider him a HOF'er even. Boarderline IMO.

[Boxing Bob]

What is the worst resume among fighters that are declared as ATG...

Ones right off the top of my head would be Joe Frazier, Roy jones, marciano..

Those 3 have very weak resumes compared to an Ali, SRL, SRR, etc..

Not saying they are bad fighters, just that their resume really lacks compared to other ATGs

Take Frazier off the list. Anyone with a legitimate win over a prime Ali cannot have a bad resume let alone be one of the worst

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I mean Roy Jones is an ATG and has a good resume.

Not Ray Robinson levels or some one like Ali but not too many do. He has a good resume ridden with ATG's, HOF'ers and boardelrine HOF'ers along with many impressive records.

I don't think he should be in this discussion.

Only problems that i have with roy jones is outside of hopkins, when hopkins was very green, and the toney fight, when toney had alot of problems during training,, I dont think his resume is very tough,, yes he beat hopkins and toney, both great wins,, but then thru the bulk of his title career he had alot of pathetic opponents like rick frazier, bryant brannon, etc,, and that lasted like a decade,, then he did move up and fought ruiz and back down to fight tarver,,, after roy was past his prime, he started taking fights people wanted to see a decade earlier like hopkins rematch, tito, calzaghe,,
And i think roy had plenty of options for big fights: Benn, eubanks, collins, liles, nunn, michlewski,,,
Mccallum and hill are considered good victories but both were way past primes and mccallum was way past it,,,

Definitley not an ATG IMO.

I'm not sure I'd consider him a HOF'er even. Boarderline IMO.

I agree with you on this,,, I think what hurts vitali most was that he retired right as he was getting recognition,, then during his retirement WLad took his spot,, Had vitali stayed and beaten a prime peter, toney, rahman, brock, no his resume wouldnt be that enhanced but it would have been better than it is now...

[IronDanHamza]

Only problems that i have with roy jones is outside of hopkins, when hopkins was very green, and the toney fight, when toney had alot of problems during training,, I dont think his resume is very tough,, yes he beat hopkins and toney, both great wins,, but then thru the bulk of his title career he had alot of pathetic opponents like rick frazier, bryant brannon, etc,, and that lasted like a decade,, then he did move up and fought ruiz and back down to fight tarver,,, after roy was past his prime, he started taking fights people wanted to see a decade earlier like hopkins rematch, tito, calzaghe,,
And i think roy had plenty of options for big fights: Benn, eubanks, collins, liles, nunn, michlewski,,,
Mccallum and hill are considered good victories but both were way past primes and mccallum was way past it,,,



I agree with you on this,,, I think what hurts vitali most was that he retired right as he was getting recognition,, then during his retirement WLad took his spot,, Had vitali stayed and beaten a prime peter, toney, rahman, brock, no his resume wouldnt be that enhanced but it would have been better than it is now...

I think Hopkins being green is way overstated. He might not have been prime but he pretty close to it.

Like many, he had some poor fights but in every division other than Heavyweight he beat high calibur opposition and highly ranked fighters.

McCallum was well passed it but Hill was #1 at that time and most definitely a very good win.

Fights like Tito and Hopkins 2 are fights no one wanted to see at all.

The Hopkins rematch not happening when it was wanted wasn't down to Roy Jones and a lot of those fights you mentioned are not fights Jones ducked.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Take Frazier off the list. Anyone with a legitimate win over a prime Ali cannot have a bad resume let alone be one of the worst

Buster douglas beat a prime tyson,,,

after the ali win-its pretty much frazier getting beat up

2nd best win is beating a lightheavy foster

I think frazier was a one-hit wonder in terms of ATGs

I think he is a great fighter, but his resume gets left in the dust by joe louis, ali, foreman, holyfield and lewis,,,, Just my opinion

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I think Hopkins being green is way overstated. He might not have been prime but he pretty close to it.

Like many, he had some poor fights but in every division other than Heavyweight he beat high calibur opposition and highly ranked fighters.

McCallum was well passed it but Hill was #1 at that time and most definitely a very good win.

Fights like Tito and Hopkins 2 are fights no one wanted to see at all.

The Hopkins rematch not happening when it was wanted wasn't down to Roy Jones and a lot of those fights you mentioned are not fights Jones ducked.

I agree with hopkins thing,, i think they both were alittle green, but i think jones beats him 9 out of 10 times,,

Hill wasnt #1,, he had just been beaten by michlewski the year before,,

You cant blame jones for all the missed fights, but i always question when fighters like ali, lennox, holy, oscar fought everyone, and guys like floyd and roy have huge missing names off their resume,, I just cant see how jones didnt duck liles, and collins,,, both wanted the fight badly and jones was the $$$$ guy of the era,,,
i usually always put the blame on the guy who brings the money because they call the shots,,, nobody forced ali, SRL, oscar, floyd, manny , to fight, they call the shots in their career because they are the biggest draw...

[Cardinal Buck]

Liston isn't a frontrunner, but definitely is in the mix somewhere.

[Cardinal Buck]

Kostya Tszyu

[young_robbed]

Don't know if he has been mentioned yet but if he is considered an ATG, Calzaghe has a real weak resume.

Neither are ATG's IMO.

Maybe Foster.

You're right though. Foster has a weak/overrated resume IMO despite the fact he didn't duck anyone and beat the best available. A victim of a weak era really.

Foster is an ATG LHW, easily top 10 and easily one of the hardest LHW punchers of all time. Maybe the hardest.