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  • #31
    Originally posted by sugarsmosley View Post
    Naseem Hamed, and yes people have told me that he's an ATG.
    Thats a good one,,, And yes i think he was an ATG,,, he was an undisputed featherweight champ, he only got beat by another ATG,,,

    So yes i think he is an ATG, and yes he has one of the weakest ATG resumes

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
      What is the worst resume among fighters that are declared as ATG...

      Ones right off the top of my head would be Joe Frazier, Roy jones, marciano..

      Those 3 have very weak resumes compared to an Ali, SRL, SRR, etc..

      Not saying they are bad fighters, just that their resume really lacks compared to other ATGs
      People have already defended Frazier so ill leave them to that, you should take Marciano off your list. Marciano has a win over Archie Moore, and two wins over both Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles, all three being ATGs.

      Jones has wins over Toney and Vinny Paz and an early BHOP, so his résumé is weaker definitely, but I wouldn't call it the "worst"

      And you must be a troll if Naseem Hamad is an ATG by your standards

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      • #33
        IMO Ricardo Lopez doesn't have such a great resume (many others seem to have already noticed that).
        Originally posted by VirusTI View Post
        Roy is not in the discussion. Having wins over toney and hopkins, two ATGs themselves, alone should disqualify him from the "worst resume" discussion, not to mention a ton of other very good and good wins.
        Well with Roy basically being a cheater I don't know how much of a legitimate ATG he should be considered. It's like considering Lens Armstrong an ATG cyclist in my opinion.

        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        Definitley not an ATG IMO.

        I'm not sure I'd consider him a HOF'er even. Boarderline IMO.
        IMO when it's all said and done he's an ATG without question. It's absurd not to consider him as such in my opinion.

        @KidKwik, awesome avatar and signature!
        Last edited by Stallion_; 08-07-2013, 04:58 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by KidKwik View Post
          People have already defended Frazier so ill leave them to that, you should take Marciano off your list. Marciano has a win over Archie Moore, and two wins over both Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles, all three being ATGs.

          Jones has wins over Toney and Vinny Paz and an early BHOP, so his résumé is weaker definitely, but I wouldn't call it the "worst"

          And you must be a troll if Naseem Hamad is an ATG by your standards
          You don't know shi t about boxing if you think Marciano has a better resume than Jones. And why the f uck are you mentioning a win over Vinny Pazienza? Where did that come from?

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          • #35
            Roy Jones has wins over Hopkins, McCallum, Toney, Tarver, Ruiz, Gonzales, Johnson, Hill, Harding, Griffin, all rated contenders, spanning something like 4 weight classes. Hardly the weakest ATG resume.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by KidKwik View Post
              People have already defended Frazier so ill leave them to that, you should take Marciano off your list. Marciano has a win over Archie Moore, and two wins over both Joe Walcott and Ezzard Charles, all three being ATGs.

              Jones has wins over Toney and Vinny Paz and an early BHOP, so his résumé is weaker definitely, but I wouldn't call it the "worst"

              And you must be a troll if Naseem Hamad is an ATG by your standards



              You do realize that the guys you mentioned where all in there 40's and smaller lightheavys when marciano beat them...
              you are probably one of the guys that thinks calzghe beating jones was a great win...
              I said i consider Prince an ATG because i think he could compete in any era,,, hell he is barrera's best win, so obvioulsy prince could fight,,, he beat alot of belt holders and pretty much cleaned out the featherweight division till morales and MAB moved up in weight,,,,
              Like i said, prince has one of the weakest resumes for ATGs

              Originally posted by GRboxing View Post
              Roy Jones has wins over Hopkins, McCallum, Toney, Tarver, Ruiz, Gonzales, Johnson, Hill, Harding, Griffin, all rated contenders, spanning something like 4 weight classes. Hardly the weakest ATG resume.
              Here is another guy with no context, just looking at names on boxrec and making statements,,
              you do realize that mccallum was over 40 years old, way way way past his prime at 154 and roy fought him at 175... lol
              Hill had already gotten beaten by michlewski the year before and hill was way past it,,
              Harding did nothing but beat a green tarver,
              griffin was nothing special,
              gonzales claim to fame was he beat michlewski, nothing special about him

              tarver fight was close, could have gone either way,,,

              Are these your great ATG wins,,,,
              Pathetic post in every aspect,,,,

              mccallum and harding and griffin great ATG wins,,,,,, ROFL

              Great job Roy you beat ranked guys,,, hasnt every champ over the past 100 years done that,,,,
              We are talking about ATG resumes and you throw out wins over harding, ancient mccalum, and griffin, over the hill hill,,,
              one of the worst posts i have ever seen, when you are talking about ATGs
              great wins for his era,, but not ATG

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              • #37
                Nicolino Locche is perhaps the correct answer to this thread. Resume is nothing special, but his skill level is almost unparalleled.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Cardinal Buck View Post
                  You don't know shi t about boxing if you think Marciano has a better resume than Jones. And why the f uck are you mentioning a win over Vinny Pazienza? Where did that come from?
                  I wasn't comparing their resumes bro, I was saying weaker in general as to say it'd be a little more of a challenge to defend Jones than another ATG. And Vinny Paz isn't a legit fighter anymore?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
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                    You do realize that the guys you mentioned where all in there 40's and smaller lightheavys when marciano beat them...
                    you are probably one of the guys that thinks calzghe beating jones was a great win...
                    I said i consider Prince an ATG because i think he could compete in any era,,, hell he is barrera's best win, so obvioulsy prince could fight,,, he beat alot of belt holders and pretty much cleaned out the featherweight division till morales and MAB moved up in weight,,,,
                    Like i said, prince has one of the weakest resumes for ATGs
                    Ill give you the Walcott being over the hill, but as old as he was, he did alright against Marciano in the first fight. But Charles had been up to heavyweight a few more times and done well.
                    Barreras best wins are against Morales not Prince, and alright he probably would "compete" but he wouldn't win/or be dominant against the top guys in other eras

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
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                      You do realize that the guys you mentioned where all in there 40's and smaller lightheavys when marciano beat them...
                      you are probably one of the guys that thinks calzghe beating jones was a great win...
                      I said i consider Prince an ATG because i think he could compete in any era,,, hell he is barrera's best win, so obvioulsy prince could fight,,, he beat alot of belt holders and pretty much cleaned out the featherweight division till morales and MAB moved up in weight,,,,
                      Like i said, prince has one of the weakest resumes for ATGs



                      Here is another guy with no context, just looking at names on boxrec and making statements,,
                      you do realize that mccallum was over 40 years old, way way way past his prime at 154 and roy fought him at 175... lol
                      Hill had already gotten beaten by michlewski the year before and hill was way past it,,
                      Harding did nothing but beat a green tarver,
                      griffin was nothing special,
                      gonzales claim to fame was he beat michlewski, nothing special about him

                      tarver fight was close, could have gone either way,,,

                      Are these your great ATG wins,,,,
                      Pathetic post in every aspect,,,,

                      mccallum and harding and griffin great ATG wins,,,,,, ROFL

                      Great job Roy you beat ranked guys,,, hasnt every champ over the past 100 years done that,,,,
                      We are talking about ATG resumes and you throw out wins over harding, ancient mccalum, and griffin, over the hill hill,,,
                      one of the worst posts i have ever seen, when you are talking about ATGs
                      great wins for his era,, but not ATG
                      Just because fighters lose to other top fighters it doesn't mean they aren't good anymore.

                      "Gonzales' claim to fame is beating Michaelczewski so nothing special about him" ROFL what a shtty post.

                      You've got to be the worst poster in the history section.

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