Bernard Hopkins VS Ray Robinson? Who Wins.

[rightsideup]

Lol if you Don't have Bhop at least in your top 20 MWs this shows how biased you are.

I have the book written by bert sugar in 2OO6 when bernard left the division and he is rated in the book
however doing a fast count there are 15-17 middleweight's rated above him. It is very deep division.

[ИATAS]

I have the book written by bert sugar in 2OO6 when bernard left the division and he is rated in the book
however doing a fast count there are 15-17 middleweight's rated above him. It is very deep division.

Bert Sugar also notoriously overrates many Oldschool fighters. If you don't have Hopkins in the top 20, there's a problem.

[atomicsad]

The greatest of all time against one of the better fighters of his era.

That kinda explains who would win.

[Humean]

I agree that not having Hopkins in top 20 middleweights of all time would be ridiculous. Currently i'm trying to put a list of the top 50 best middleweights, but only starting from Zale as I want enough video footage of all fighters listed to make a good judgment with comparisons. Haven't placed Hopkins in yet but he is likely in my top 10. Only my top 5 would I definitely pick on a typical day to beat Hopkins.

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Two versions of Robinson at middleweight i'd fancy over Hopkins, 1950-52 Robinson, and roughly 1955-58 Robinson but Hopkins would stand a decent chance against anyone.

[LacedUp]

I personally don't have Hopkins in my top twenty middleweights so picking him over the Greatest Fighter that ever Lived is silly! Bernard was certainly better then as a middleweight as opposed to the carnival he tours with as a self promoted grand pop of boxing!!'Sugarman has twice as many knockout wins than Bernard has fights!!! Ray.

Is that serious Ray? Bernard Hopkins is in my opinion easily in the top 15 if not top 10. Some people have him in top 5!

Ray Robinson right after moving up to MW and going on a crazy streak of good wins would most likely take a points decision over Hopkins. But Hopkins could hang with anyone in his prime imo.

[Naps]

Hopkins is one of the most boring "elite" fighters.

I'd like to say Robinson would wheelchair him, but it would probably turn into a clinchfest due to Hopkins being so scummy.

[Daddy T]

Hopkins would somehow manage to make it boring as hell. It would go the distance and be a surprisingly close decision. But I do think ray would edge it. Hopkins would give anyone a tough, boring and close fight.

[slicksouthpaw16]

I personally don't have Hopkins in my top twenty middleweights so picking him over the Greatest Fighter that ever Lived is silly! Bernard was certainly better then as a middleweight as opposed to the carnival he tours with as a self promoted grand pop of boxing!!'Sugarman has twice as many knockout wins than Bernard has fights!!! Ray.

Can you post your top 20 middleweights?

[Daddy T]

I don't like Hopkins style, I don't like watching him box, but there is no way he is outside the top 20 middleweights, indeed I'd like to see a list of 10 who achieved more at the weight than he did.

You may not like him and his style may not be pleasing to the eye but you can't deny the guy knew ... and still knows how to win.

[AntonTheMeh]

believe it or not, ray was/is hops idol.

I'll take ray though.