When we were Kings(Foreman on the bag :D)

[supaduck]

Marciano hit hard, but as hard as Foreman?

HAHhaHahAHahHAhaHA!

[Southpaw Stinger]

Obviously not. Foreman is the hardest hitter of all!

[manfredojr]

so many ppl speaks about marciano hitting the 300lbs bag but there is still no vid can some one please care to share?

http://media.putfile.com/Rocky-Marci...by-SakurabaFan

You'll see the highlight in here.

[Brockton Lip]

Foreman hit way harder than Marciano. Marciano was a small shrimp compared to Foreman.

Nobody hit way harder than Marciano. Its possible that Foreman hit harder (and even that has been argued many times) but way harder? No way.

[Kid Achilles]

**** Saddler worked with both men and swore that Marciano hit harder and would have beaten Foreman on his best day. His words, not mine.

[butterfly1964]

**** Saddler worked with both men and swore that Marciano hit harder and would have beaten Foreman on his best day. His words, not mine.

moore said that yvone durelle hit harder than marciano, so does that mean that yvonne durele hit harder than george foreman?

[Southpaw Stinger]

moore said that yvone durelle hit harder than marciano, so does that mean that yvonne durele hit harder than george foreman?

True. Marciano struggled to KO some light heavy's so I'm not that impressed. He was strong for his size but not when you compare him to the big heavy hitters like Foreman or Shavers.

[LondonRingRules]

============**** Saddler worked with both men and swore that Marciano hit harder and would have beaten Foreman on his best day. His words, not mine.===========

** Saddler was also very good friends with Ali and his camp. It was Saddler who lobbied Ali 2 yrs for the Foreman fight by telling him exactly how to beat Foreman. Foreman also claims Saddler gave him a small bottle of funny water just before leaving the dressing room. I wouldn't trust Saddler a bit.

[Heckler]

============**** Saddler worked with both men and swore that Marciano hit harder and would have beaten Foreman on his best day. His words, not mine.===========

** Saddler was also very good friends with Ali and his camp. It was Saddler who lobbied Ali 2 yrs for the Foreman fight by telling him exactly how to beat Foreman. Foreman also claims Saddler gave him a small bottle of funny water just before leaving the dressing room. I wouldn't trust Saddler a bit.

Have you any evidence of this? because according to Ali and everyone who was associated with him at the time, he forumulated the plan IN THE RING. You see him trying to stick in move in the first couple of rounds, which proves ineffective due to his lack of footspeed. Stop talking bull****, funny water? Foreman lost because he didn't have the assets to take out Ali on the night, simple.

[Yogi]

Have you any evidence of this? because according to Ali and everyone who was associated with him at the time, he forumulated the plan IN THE RING.

You can find plenty of quotes from those who watched Ali train for the Foreman fight and they'll tell you that a big part of Ali's training consisted of him practicing the rope-a-dope...

"At the end of the round Bossman(Jones) came and stood above us against the ropes. When time was called for the next round he turned and shuffled across the ring to where Ali was waiting for him on the ropes."

"Up in the ring Bossman was working rather perfunctorily, leaning on Ali, who was relaxed against the ropes and occasionally thumping his employer alongside his rib cage."

That's just a couple of quotes from George Plimpton, who was an eyewitness to much of Ali's preparation for the Foreman fight...Those were the easily to find, but I'm very sure there's other quotes/examples from both that book ('Shadow Box') and others.