Duran vs Hagler was...

[IronDanHamza]

See, this is why I didn't read your last comment. I only read the first sentence to know you don't know too much about scoring fights.
Not gonna waste my time discussing with you about this topic.

Say's the guy who cannot score a fight without 2-3 even rounds.

How many even rounds did you have for the Hopkins-Cloud fight again? 5? 6?

You of all people, notorious have having terrible card after terrible card, who scored atleast 2 even rounds every single fight despite the fact judges do not score even rounds, has no place to tell someone else they don't know how to score a fight.

[Andyland]

Hagler vs Duran

Hagler for being hailed as an ATG was very disappointing in both the Duran and Leonard fights.

He should have been much more aggressive in both fights.

Where was the Hagler of the Mugabi and Hearns fights?

an ATG middleweight would have demolished two smaller men like Leonard and Duran.

[them_apples]

How often is there a round so even that it results in an even round? Very rarely.

Just when a close round occurs, you can't decide who edged it and give it even because as you don't really know how to score a fight properly, meaning scoring it even is the easiest way for you to score an round which is close.. Which again, is a rarity amongst judges which is why scoring an even round is pretty much a pointless thing to do.

Which again beckons the question, do you have a scorecard without 3 even rounds? Because I don't think I've seen one from you. I'm genuinely curious to whether you have one.

Every time I see you have a scorecard, the first thing I think other than "This is going to be horrible" is I guarantee there are atleast 2 even rounds on this card.

You scored what? 5 even rounds in the Cloud-Hopkins fight? That's absurd, on all levels.

But like I said, despite the fact an completely even round to occur a 10-10 situation is a rarity, it doesn't matter regardless because a judge is almost never going to score a round 10-10 anyway. Let alone 3 every single fight.

and round 11 in Hagler vs Duran was 100% an even round too. there were plenty of even rounds in the srl vs Hagler fight as well.

Judges are often corrupt

[Barn]

Hagler for being hailed as an ATG was very disappointing in both the Duran and Leonard fights.

He should have been much more aggressive in both fights.

Where was the Hagler of the Mugabi and Hearns fights?

an ATG middleweight would have demolished two smaller men like Leonard and Duran.

Duran was no schmuck at Middleweight, he beat Iran Barkley.

Hagler won the Duran fight convincingly, by about 6-9 points. I don't see why you would ask for the Hagler of the Mugabi or Hearns fights when they wasn't actually his style. He fought like so against Hearns because not even SRL could outbox Hearns so what chance did Hagler have?

Against Mugabi it was clear his head-movement and timing was gone so he had to resort to a war of attrition. He took a lot of shots that fight and didn't look sharp at all.

[billeau2]

And here the lies the problem and thus your inability to score a fight.

You are right that the judges score fights that way....

Doesn't make it right not by a stretch....given that Judges are so STELLER at picking the right guy, maybe they should give more even rounds.

Your self righteous attitude about judging fights would be laughable if you were not serious.

[Bolo Punch]

Say's the guy who cannot score a fight without 2-3 even rounds.

How many even rounds did you have for the Hopkins-Cloud fight again? 5? 6?

You of all people, notorious have having terrible card after terrible card, who scored atleast 2 even rounds every single fight despite the fact judges do not score even rounds, has no place to tell someone else they don't know how to score a fight.

I agree with your argument. Not to say that I never give even rounds, because I do. I don't like to do it, though.

Hagler for being hailed as an ATG was very disappointing in both the Duran and Leonard fights.

I agree. Perhaps he was overawed with sharing a ring with two legends such as Duran and Leonard. He doesn't seem like the type of person who would be at all, but who knows. I also don't think he expected Duran to box him and try to counter him, so maybe that had some bearing, too.

I still scored the Duran fight to Hagler, though.

an ATG middleweight would have demolished two smaller men like Leonard and Duran.

I disagree. I doubt anyone would've demolished Leonard, even the version that fought Hagler. Duran, probably, although he wasn't going down without a fight.

[StarshipTrooper]

How often is there a round so even that it results in an even round? Very rarely.

Just when a close round occurs, you can't decide who edged it and give it even because as you don't really know how to score a fight properly, meaning scoring it even is the easiest way for you to score an round which is close.. Which again, is a rarity amongst judges which is why scoring an even round is pretty much a pointless thing to do.

Which again beckons the question, do you have a scorecard without 3 even rounds? Because I don't think I've seen one from you. I'm genuinely curious to whether you have one.

Every time I see you have a scorecard, the first thing I think other than "This is going to be horrible" is I guarantee there are atleast 2 even rounds on this card.

You scored what? 5 even rounds in the Cloud-Hopkins fight? That's absurd, on all levels.

But like I said, despite the fact an completely even round to occur a 10-10 situation is a rarity, it doesn't matter regardless because a judge is almost never going to score a round 10-10 anyway. Let alone 3 every single fight.

It used to be a lot more common prior to the '80s. Not really sure what changed but once the 80s got underway there seemed to be a hard trend against them.

Poet

[Miburo]

Hagler fought way too conservatively in that fight.

[TBear]

I thought Hagler won handedly. The thought at the time was that it was still closer than anyone expected. Especially when the majority of writers and fans expected Hagler to literally destroy Duran!

[raskat]

It used to be a lot more common prior to the '80s. Not really sure what changed but once the 80s got underway there seemed to be a hard trend against them.

Poet

You are totally right: I remember for example a broadcast of the Ken Norton-Larry Holmes fight in which after quite a few rounds one commentator said he had one guy ahead by so and so rounds and he scored 3 rounds even.