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  • joseph5620
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    #31
    Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
    I think Pacquiao would give Leonard and Duran a lot of trouble. I think he beats Duran he would get the better of Duran in most exchanges because of his speed and I trust his chin a bit more.
    Hagler has no business being mentioned in this thread.


    You trust Pacquiao's chin more than Duran's? I want to make sure I'm reading that correctly because it's absurd.

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    • SCtrojansbaby
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      #32
      But, with Leonard; bigger, faster, more skilled, incredible chin and will, excellent power...Pac would end up walking into stuff all night. I really can't see it going any other way.
      That is ridiculous Leonard is NOT faster than Pacquiao

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      • SCtrojansbaby
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        #33
        Originally posted by joseph5620
        You trust Pacquiao's chin more than Duran's? I want to make sure I'm reading that correctly because it's absurd.
        Yes Pacquiao has shown a slightly better chin throughout his career than Duran has.

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          #34
          Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
          Yes Pacquiao has shown a slightly better chin throughout his career than Duran has.
          No he hasn't. Pacquiao has been knocked cold three times in his career. Duran took flush shots from Leonard, Hagler and the much bigger Iran Barkley. All three hit harder than anyone Pacquiao has ever faced. No way Pacquiao's chin holds up to any of those fighters.

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            #35
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            No he hasn't. Pacquiao has been knocked cold three times in his career. Duran took flush shots from Leonard, Hagler and the much bigger Iran Barkley. All three hit harder than anyone Pacquiao has ever faced. No way Pacquiao's chin holds up to any of those fighters.
            what he said

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            • SCtrojansbaby
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              #36
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              No he hasn't. Pacquiao has been knocked cold three times in his career. Duran took flush shots from Leonard, Hagler and the much bigger Iran Barkley. All three hit harder than anyone Pacquiao has ever faced. No way Pacquiao's chin holds up to any of those fighters.
              2 of those were when he was basically a teenager. Duran was hurt more frequently in his prime than Pacquiao was in his. I think the faster guy would get the better of the exchanges also

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                #37
                Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
                I think Pacquiao would give Leonard and Duran a lot of trouble. I think he beats Duran he would get the better of Duran in most exchanges because of his speed and I trust his chin a bit more.

                Hagler has no business being mentioned in this thread.
                Yeah he would give them as much trouble as Guerrero just gave Mayweather.

                and yeah you can trust his chin to be smashed by any of those two, considering Marquez knocked him out cold.

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                • Daddy T
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                  #38
                  there's some seriously ******ed posts in this thread most notably by some dunce saying pac has a better chin than Duran lol.

                  Also I believe the same person said pac would beat both Duran and Leonard while saying hagler has no business being mentioned in this thread ... why is that?

                  Duran held his own in a tough 15 rounder with Hagler ... Leonard beat him ... apparently Pac would beat both of them yet has no business fighting Hagler who they did fight and did well against (one can only presume that you can't imagine Pac having a chance against any middleweight let alone an atg middleweight yet if we were to stick Duran or Leonard in with 99%(minimium) of the middleweights today, they would come out victorious - who knows, the Leonard that beat hagler would prob beat every last one of them ... pac couldn't beat a top 20 fighter at full blown middleweight, yet apparently he'd own leonard )
                  Last edited by Daddy T; 05-07-2013, 03:09 AM.

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                  • DeepSleep
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                    #39
                    Frankly neither Floyd or Pacman are at their best at WW.

                    Mayweather:

                    Against Duran at 135 I'd favor Duran to simply mug Floyd and smother him. Floyd would land his usual 40%+ and Duran would land less than 25% but he would out work Floyd by a wide margin as Floyd would spend all day trying to defend himself.

                    Against Leonard I'd imagine Floyd would make Leonard miss but would struggle to land anything of note against the bigger Leonard and would lose a clear decision.

                    Against Hearns he struggles with the same problem as above but manages to steal a few rounds by frustrating Hearns before the hit man lands a bomb and sparks Floyd out in the later rounds.

                    Hagler would decapitate Floyd at 160...

                    Pacquiao:

                    Against Duran at 135 we would have some fireworks but I think Pacquiao's inability to defend himself from the right hand along with Duran's superior durability gives Duran the late stoppage or clear decision.

                    Against Leonard I think he gets into major problems due to the size difference coupled with Leonard's hand speed. I think Pacquiao's only chance to win is to try and land bombs on Leonard but I think he has nowhere near enough power to really damage SRL.

                    Against Hearns he gets put to sleep early in the fight by a huge right hand. He is heavily outgunned by the much bigger Hearns.

                    Hagler annihilates Pacquiao at 160...

                    I'd think the better question is how these two would match up with Whitaker, Chavez and Tsyzu.

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                      #40
                      they match up very well at the lower weights they fought at but at welterweight they get served. im not even sure pacquiao is a top 10 all time WW tbh. floyd is probably somewhere around 5-8.

                      floyd would be competetive with duran, any other matchup including floyd or pac against one of the fab four ends in a massacre.

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