Who would have been most likely to beat a prime Roy Jones Jr

[res]

I'd pick a few people to beat him at Superheavy including Spinks, Conn and probably Foster.

I wouldn't really feel confident picking anyone as the "favorite" against him at Middle or Super-Middle. .

[IronDanHamza]

I'm not here to educate you, find the videos, literature and form your own opinions! You asked my opinion, you got it, as to why they could defeat him they're on the same level. I don't idolize I evaluate the plusses then minuses so that my opinion is based on what I know about methods & techniques, not common opponents and a won lose record!

You have alot of questioning while being a demanding lil cuss, .
Roy at middleweight was nothing special, he beat Hopkins who was never a great offensive fighter. What great fighter did Roy EVER fight Tarver???
Antonio beat him 2 out of 3!!!! Most great fighters are considered great by their skills & experience. Roy was a highly skilled fighter but never fought great fighters unless you consider fiighting a welter Trinidad) at 170lbs a great bout!
I think Roy was a terrific talent but I don't hold his accomplishments as high as most fans on this forum do. He never fought equals and there were equals from other era's. Study the history of the classes and read what the knowledgable boxing people agree on. .........Fitzsimmons could beat him at 60 & 75! Ray.

So that's a no, then?

[Ray Corso]

Your a smart boy figure it out! Who are you his manager? Ray.

[IronDanHamza]

Your a smart boy figure it out! Who are you his manager? Ray.

This is a place where we discuss things.

You said Willie Pastrano would beat Roy Jones Jr.

Surely you have come reasoning behind that? Why don't you share it?

[CarlosG815]

I think Ray Corso is Skip Bayless behind a keyboard. Say the most ridiculous things to get a knee jerk reaction for attention.

[Scott9945]

I think Ray Corso is Skip Bayless behind a keyboard. Say the most ridiculous things to get a knee jerk reaction for attention.

I honestly don't think he's that clever. Bayless has turned his act into a better paying career on TV. The other guy is just a hard headed hot air blowing jerk.

[NChristo]

I know you're not here to educate me, you're clearly not ****ing capable, but it does beg the question what are you here for ?
We all come here to debate the sport that we love, take Grey for example, he doesn't proclaim him self to be some boxing genius like you yet when questioned on his opinion he comes straight back with a sound answer instead of trying to find a way out.

You asked my opinion, you got it, as to why they could defeat him they're on the same level.
I don't idolize I evaluate the plusses then minuses so that my opinion is based on what I know about methods & techniques, not common opponents and a won lose record!

So you're reasoning for Zale and the others beating Roy is that you know how to evaluate a boxer ?, that means absolutely nothing
and all you've done there is stroke your ego some more without putting anything forward.

This is the foundation of the disagreement I have with annoitnting RJJ the greatest of all time.
Yes he was fast, and he could leap in and out, etc...against guys that let him do it. I thought, from the start of his career, that he lacked the conviction to engage in a hard fight, and, if you think he would have it easy against some of these old time guys, you are mistaken.
The key to beating jones was (since anybody can do it now, haha) controlling distance, and not letting him do as he wants. watch Conn fight; you'll see how his movement controls the distance. Watch Charles, watch moore (and here i'm going to assume that guys that competed with them on an even basis, like eddie Booker, had these same skills). They controlled the distance. You aren't going to be leaping in on them and pot-shotting them.
The other key to beating Jones is to punch when he is punching- he was too quick to cover and then counter, he'd get away. But when he is punching, he leaves himself wide open, chin in the air. clinton woods and the retired cops he fought did not do this; top flight guys like moore, charles, conn, etc...would.
Now, you're going to throw the Toney fight back at me, but I don't believe Toney went into that fight thinking he would win, and, while the styles may or may not be similar, I don't think that the skill level of toney was on par with that of Charles, moore, Conn, or manhy others. It was a much more educated game back in the day.
So no, I don't think RJJ was even close to unbeatable. Nobody is. Somebody always has your number and I believe his was in the book.

Thank you, I still disagree about Booker although I see where you're coming from, I have nothing wrong with someone saying Conn, Moore, Charles etc could beat him, they're all bonafide greats who should not be counted out against any man, I remember reading an Eddie Futch interview previous the Griffin fight where Futch said the same as you did, the way to fight Jones is too punch when he punches. Conn definitely has the tools to beat Jones but I think Jones is still the favourite, 60/40 type match up, he'd fair better then say Moore who would still be a danger, obviously, but Jones would play it safe knowing he was in with someone who has the tricks to get in his range and has the power to do some damage. Charles is the man that could definitely do the job, him and Spinks I'd actually favor over Roy.

[Japanese Boxing]

Ray has some good fighters in there that imo would also beat Jones. Some of them I'm just not too sure about. The guy is hit or miss and sometimes the same in the exact same post.

[Anthony342]

I'm not here to educate you, find the videos, literature and form your own opinions! You asked my opinion, you got it, as to why they could defeat him they're on the same level. I don't idolize I evaluate the plusses then minuses so that my opinion is based on what I know about methods & techniques, not common opponents and a won lose record!

You have alot of questioning while being a demanding lil cuss, .
Roy at middleweight was nothing special, he beat Hopkins who was never a great offensive fighter. What great fighter did Roy EVER fight Tarver???
Antonio beat him 2 out of 3!!!! Most great fighters are considered great by their skills & experience. Roy was a highly skilled fighter but never fought great fighters unless you consider fiighting a welter Trinidad) at 170lbs a great bout!
I think Roy was a terrific talent but I don't hold his accomplishments as high as most fans on this forum do. He never fought equals and there were equals from other era's. Study the history of the classes and read what the knowledgable boxing people agree on. .........Fitzsimmons could beat him at 60 & 75! Ray.

Okay, so what they're asking is how does Fitzsimmons beat him or any of the other guys you mentioned? Not doubting your knowledge, would just like you to share some of it here. What skills/strategy does he use?

[Barn]

I'd decision Fitzsimmons if I was un-KO-able.

The notion that Fitzsimmons beats Roy is ridiculous. Fitzsimmons would be confused and dazzled by the speed and power; he'd have no clue what was going on and would get pounded to a ref stoppage within two minutes if he doesn't already get KO'd by a Jones power shot over his crazily low guard.