greatest light weight!

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • butterfly1964
    The HW Sugar Ray!
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Oct 2005
    • 10615
    • 374
    • 233
    • 23,822

    #31
    Originally posted by hellfire508
    Personally...I think Armstrong was far better at featherweight and welterweight. Still top ten at light though.
    definetely gans by far is better than all of them.

    Comment

    • Yogi
      Hey, Boo Boo
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Jun 2004
      • 2665
      • 174
      • 97
      • 9,583

      #32
      Originally posted by butterfly1964
      definetely gans by far is better than all of them.
      Maybe that term is used in your world, but realistically, there's no such thing as one fighter being "by far" greater than all others who fought in their division.

      That's not to say that I disagree with your selection of Gans, though, because he's a very strong candidate as the greatest Lightweight in history (I ranked him #2) and I'm actually kinda glad to see that you have so much respect for him.

      Comment

      • butterfly1964
        The HW Sugar Ray!
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Oct 2005
        • 10615
        • 374
        • 233
        • 23,822

        #33
        Originally posted by Yogi
        Maybe that term is used in your world, but realistically, there's no such thing as one fighter being "by far" greater than all others who fought in their division.

        That's not to say that I disagree with your selection of Gans, though, because he's a very strong candidate as the greatest Lightweight in history (I ranked him #2) and I'm actually kinda glad to see that you have so much respect for him.
        if i pick someone, it's because i have a good reason.

        Comment

        • oldgringo
          Ellis
          Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
          • Jul 2004
          • 12747
          • 968
          • 453
          • 30,064

          #34
          I would have to go ahead and say Roberto Duran.

          However, there is the strong argument in Benny Leonard's favor when you listen to what Arcel had to say. He probably would know more about this afterall.

          Personally, I have seen a LOT more Roberto Duran than I have seen of Leonard (which is in fact nothing...only have read about the ****** wizard), which also sways me to go ahead and call it in favor of Duran. The fact that Duran was successful all the way up to 160 pounds also has something to do with my decision.

          The only man I can see beating a top form Duran would be a top form Whitaker. Whitaker at his peak was one of the most dominating fighters I've ever seen. Again, my take might be a bit biased because Whitaker was my favorite fighter ever, but I feel that he had the legs, skills, and natural talents to beat any lightweight in a single 15 round fight.

          I wouldn't bet against Duran in a 5 fight series against anyone else either.

          Comment

          • moondog0
            Up and Comer
            Interim Champion - 1-100 posts
            • Jan 2006
            • 52
            • 10
            • 0
            • 6,330

            #35
            When I first started boxing in 1978, I bought 8mm films of Duran fighting for the championship, he was molded after the old time fighters, tough toe to toe style, full of surprises and power, I think in his prime as a lightweight he would have been tough to beat.
            Duran#1,,,,,

            Comment

            • BKM-
              05-
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jan 2006
              • 8590
              • 921
              • 1,092
              • 49,234

              #36
              No The Greatest Lichtweight Ever Is.........
              ............................................
              Regilio Tuur!!!

              Comment

              • The Wire
                West Ham til I die
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jul 2005
                • 1783
                • 158
                • 358
                • 8,739

                #37
                Roberto Duran

                Comment

                • Yogi
                  Hey, Boo Boo
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2665
                  • 174
                  • 97
                  • 9,583

                  #38
                  I uploaded this yesterday for a buddy on here, so the least I could do is to pass it on for anybody else interested...

                  Some Joe Gans for you (versus Kid Herman);

                  Hightail Spaces lets you send unlimited files, of any size, to anyone. Collaborate with your team and evolve your work.

                  Comment

                  • Heckler
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1054
                    • 49
                    • 22
                    • 8,559

                    #39
                    Cant pick between Duran, Gans, and Leonard... if i had to id give the nudge to Duran because ive seen so much more of him.

                    Comment

                    • K-DOGG
                      Mitakuye Oyasin
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 5851
                      • 406
                      • 397
                      • 25,885

                      #40
                      I'll admit I'm biased towards Duran; but I do believe the talent pool was deeper when Leonard reigned and God only knows how good Joe Gans could have been if he'd lived. The first fight with Battling Nelson still blows me away. Modern lightweights who should be thought of include both Chavez and Whitaker. Ike Williams, I think, deserves to be in the Top Ten. Truthfully, I'll have to rehash through my notes...if I can find them.. before I could compile a full Top Ten list, though. Top 3 would most assuredly consist of the first Three I mentioned, though...no question.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP