Graziano was a much harder hitter, but that wouldn't have helped much against Lamotta.
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Why did Rocky Graziano never fight Jake LaMotta?
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Originally posted by catalinul View Post
They were actually signed to fight.
Graziano injured his hand in training and LaMotta fought Mitri instead.
There is even a picture from a press conference with them looking backward at the camera and winking while holding the contracts.
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Originally posted by Ivich View Post
"Injured his hand in training," Yeah I read that,I also read he punched a tree trunk to injure it. True or not ,he never went near Jake.
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This is a no-brainer…LaMotta wins this easily by wide decision if he chose to carry Rocky, or late round stoppage. Graziano was not in LaMotta’s league. Jake had taken the best punches of much bigger punchers like Satterfield, Robinson, Murphy, and much better boxers like Cerdan, Williams and Lytell. Jake fought very competitively with Robinson a half dozen times, Rocky was nearly decapitated by Robinson in just a few rounds.JAB5239 likes this.
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostThis is a no-brainer…LaMotta wins this easily by wide decision if he chose to carry Rocky, or late round stoppage. Graziano was not in LaMotta’s league. Jake had taken the best punches of much bigger punchers like Satterfield, Robinson, Murphy, and much better boxers like Cerdan, Williams and Lytell. Jake fought very competitively with Robinson a half dozen times, Rocky was nearly decapitated by Robinson in just a few rounds.
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Graziano was a ham and egger nothing more.
But he had the balls to throw ten right hands in a row and led with his face. He wowed the fans and they loved him for it.
Nobody ever wanted their money back and no body walked out in the middle of one of his fights, e.g. Mayweather Jr.
While most of the great fighters were in uniform Graziano filled the gap; he pack venues and became a 'superstar,' but yes just a shooting star guaranteed to flame out quickly.
He wasn't an ATG but that's OK he was an important part of the game.
You guys are always so concerned with judging who was better than whom, I feel you miss out on the real excitement of history when you don't stop, step back and appreciate the fighter, for in his day, who he was.
You're missing his greatness; you're not going to find it in resumes, style evaluations, or H2H fantasy fights.
It happened in the arenas and we weren't there.
But try to envision the events, embrace the excitement of the fights, of the nights; the charisma of the man. Enjoy the fighter, he was great for boxing. That puts him in the hall of fame and makes him an all time great.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View PostGraziano was a ham and egger nothing more.
But he had the balls to throw ten right hands in a row and led with his face. He wowed the fans and they loved him for it.
Nobody ever wanted their money back and no body walked out in the middle of one of his fights, e.g. Mayweather Jr.
While most of the great fighters were in uniform Graziano filled the gap; he pack venues and became a 'superstar,' but yes just a shooting star guaranteed to flame out quickly.
He wasn't an ATG but that's OK he was an important part of the game.
You guys are always so concerned with judging who was better than whom, I feel you miss out on the real excitement of history when you don't stop, step back and appreciate the fighter, for in his day, who he was.
You're missing his greatness; you're not going to find it in resumes, style evaluations, or H2H fantasy fights.
It happened in the arenas and we weren't there.
But try to envision the events, embrace the excitement of the fights, of the nights; the charisma of the man. Enjoy the fighter, he was great for boxing. That puts him in the hall of fame and makes him an all time great.
Last edited by Ivich; 11-08-2022, 05:30 AM.
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Originally posted by Ivich View Post
Yes we know all this,he was exciting and put bums on seats,and better, more deserving fighters such as Lamotta,Burley ,and Williams didn't get their chance at Zale because he had a trilogy with him,tying up the title for 2 years. An all time great? Not for me.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View PostGraziano was a ham and egger nothing more.
But he had the balls to throw ten right hands in a row and led with his face. He wowed the fans and they loved him for it.
Nobody ever wanted their money back and no body walked out in the middle of one of his fights, e.g. Mayweather Jr.
While most of the great fighters were in uniform Graziano filled the gap; he pack venues and became a 'superstar,' but yes just a shooting star guaranteed to flame out quickly.
He wasn't an ATG but that's OK he was an important part of the game.
You guys are always so concerned with judging who was better than whom, I feel you miss out on the real excitement of history when you don't stop, step back and appreciate the fighter, for in his day, who he was.
You're missing his greatness; you're not going to find it in resumes, style evaluations, or H2H fantasy fights.
It happened in the arenas and we weren't there.
But try to envision the events, embrace the excitement of the fights, of the nights; the charisma of the man. Enjoy the fighter, he was great for boxing. That puts him in the hall of fame and makes him an all time great.
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